loli feel we may have gone over something like this before. my issue (and it's not really an issue, but rather the way i prefer to interpret the rule) is pretty straight forward--in this thread for example, it has been said that flash would beat this group because, well, he could hit the shield an infinite number of times, for example, and shatter it, that, in effect, he could have a nearly infinite amount of time to take care of business--as he does in almost every thread. it hasn't been stated directly, but the same can be said of superman.
my issue has always been that, yes, they COULD do that. and in a battleboard scenario where they fight at full capacity regardless of whether it is in character or not, they WOULD do that because doing anything else is 'illogical'.
however, that runs 100% contrary to what they WOULD do most often in a comic. even in a situation like this one it's highly unlikely he would ever use that level of speed at the outset of a battle. not because he's dumb, but because that's simply how he's portrayed. the full capacity rule in effect makes it impossible to put anyone but a flash or flash equivalent against flash. i mean, people think someone like odin has zero chance to beat the flash. to me, that's...crazy. it doesn't, and never has, made sense. it runs contrary to what we see all the time, and kills discussion. but it's not limited to speed, it's just that speed is most often the thing that bogs discussion.
i guess i could ask you the same thing i asked ds--if full capacity was eliminated, what effect do you think it would have on battles? let's say instead of full capacity, we substituted most frequent portrayal. of course there would still be arguments about what is the most frequent portrayal, but those would mostly be self evident.
the argument might go--if you don't want speed to be an issue, equalize it. or put someone else up against a speedster. problem is, non-speedsters have cool battles against speedsters all the time. then you'll say PIS! lol and i'll say it isn't pis, it's comics and that over the long haul pis is determined by its differentiation from the normal portrayal so pis gets ruled out automatically. exotic powers can still be brought up and argued as discussions ensue, but at least there COULD be discussion.
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tldr, but, you did ask. i'm really not trying to stir up sh!t pr, just, as always, looking for some well reasoned, and well supported discussion. the defense of full capacity just doesn't feel like 'real' support to me, and suggesting this team of powerful x-men has a chance to beat flash shouldn't feel like i have to neuter flash to give them that chance. /shrug
