What is standard equipment???

This can be a versus thread if people want it to be.

So, am sure a lot of you have seen the Blade threads.

Do we consider Boy-Thing a part of his standard arsenal? By this I mean, is it what he brings INTO battle?

Doesn't have to actually USE it, but just so we know he carries it.

Per forum rules:

Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.

And how many instances does it have to be? Boy-Thing appeared in Avengers #17, we are now on Avengers #42 - and in addition, Blade has appeared in War of the Realms (6 issues, plus any tie-ins), and the King in Black storyline (twice, I think). So that is a good ~30-40 issues of appearances.

I'm not talking about scenes of Blade chilling in Avengers Mountain with BT on his shoulder - that's just chilling. I am talking about in BATTLE.

Trackz and I obviously don't see eye to eye on this, but what do others think?

The underpants that Daredevil wears into battle every time we see him would be an example of standard equipment. However, if that standard equipment could operate autonomously at times, why wouldn't or couldn't it still be considered standard equipment?

Originally posted by Stoic
The underpants that Daredevil wears into battle every time we see him would be an example of standard equipment. However, if that standard equipment could operate autonomously at times, why wouldn't or couldn't it still be considered standard equipment?

in addition, we also dictate standard equipment differently for those characters whose equipment varies (e.g. deadpool, punisher, winter soldier, etc.). with those characters we set it based on equipment they've been shown to have at least semi-regularly or at the very least seem to carry on them with no deliberate planning or preparation. it's why characters like punisher and deadpool get explosives even though there can several story arcs in which they aren't shown or used. we also know that there have been several arcs over a few years where they have used them. setting a standard equipment for characters with varying arsenals as if all equipment should be like the captain america shield wouldn't make sense for them, and it's why people implicitly allow for those characters to take advantage of their varied arsenals.

Originally posted by Stoic
The underpants that Daredevil wears into battle every time we see him would be an example of standard equipment. However, if that standard equipment could operate autonomously at times, why wouldn't or couldn't it still be considered standard equipment?

Then Robin suddenly becomes Batman's.

But my point is how do we deal with equipment that ISN'T seen in MOST battles?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then Robin suddenly becomes Batman's.

But my point is how do we deal with equipment that ISN'T seen in MOST battles?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
As a Batman fan that question strikes you now?

Difference is (and this is how it started), Batman has a belt that is practically bottomless, lol.

Boy Thing doesn't always appear on Blade's shoulder when Blade goes to fight. Hell, most of the time he doesn't even appear on his shoulder when Blade goes into a fight.

In case of equipment, something that you can whip out without any prep being specifically done beforehand.

In case of semi-sentient or sentient tools, likes Thor's Mjolnir or Surfer's board, something that you have at you at all times except very particular storylines [Unworthy Thor, for obvious reasons].

In case of actual characters, something that is intrinsically the character and used to fight at all times [like Eddie/Venom], and not something that you only use once in a while, or is a completely separate being [like Robin].

Originally posted by Trackz
in addition, we also dictate standard equipment differently for those characters whose equipment varies (e.g. deadpool, punisher, winter soldier, etc.). with those characters we set it based on equipment they've been shown to have at least semi-regularly or at the very least seem to carry on them with no deliberate planning or preparation. it's why characters like punisher and deadpool get explosives even though there can several story arcs in which they aren't shown or used. we also know that there have been several arcs over a few years where they have used them. setting a standard equipment for characters with varying arsenals as if all equipment should be like the captain america shield wouldn't make sense for them, and it's why people implicitly allow for those characters to take advantage of their varied arsenals.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then Robin suddenly becomes Batman's.

But my point is how do we deal with equipment that ISN'T seen in MOST battles?

Just a suggestion to hopefully put you two at ease, but why not wait for a few more issues to come out to see whether or not Blade even still interacts with BT? I mean imagine if Groot somehow appears, and BT bonds with him to form Devastator (It could happen). I mean that anything could happen. As for now, Blade and BT seem to have a bond that resembles Eddie and the Symbiote, so I'd see nothing wrong with saying that it was his standard equipment, albeit that they're partnering isn't as frequent as Deadpool's katana.

But yeah, it's probably best to wait and see if BT is still with him in 6 months from now.

Originally posted by Stoic
Just a suggestion to hopefully put you two ar ease, but why not wait for a few more issues to come out to see whether or not Blade even still interacts with BT? I mean imagine if Groot somehow appear, and BT bond with him to form Devastor (It could happen). I mean that anything could happen. As for now, Blade and BT seem to have a bond that resembles Eddie and the Symbiote, so I'd see nothing wrong with saying that it was his standard equipment, albeit that they're partnering isn't as frequent as Deadpool's katana.

But yeah, it's probably best to wait and see if BT is still with him in 6 months from now.

Except....he doesn't have a bond like Eddie and the symbiote. This is the lie that some are trying to peddle.

There are many, MANY times where Blade goes into battle with no BT. The War of the Realms, for example.

The Khonshu war.

Even in the current Phoenix storyline, BT is left behind to babysit the Starbrand. BT is his own person.

Did he just compare robin to BT? complete clown 😂 🤦🏼‍♂️

Originally posted by Stoic
Just a suggestion to hopefully put you two at ease, but why not wait for a few more issues to come out to see whether or not Blade even still interacts with BT? I mean imagine if Groot somehow appears, and BT bonds with him to form Devastator (It could happen). I mean that anything could happen. As for now, Blade and BT seem to have a bond that resembles Eddie and the Symbiote, so I'd see nothing wrong with saying that it was his standard equipment, albeit that they're partnering isn't as frequent as Deadpool's katana.

But yeah, it's probably best to wait and see if BT is still with him in 6 months from now.

well...my standard equipment would be the dick in my hand

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then Robin suddenly becomes Batman's.

But my point is how do we deal with equipment that ISN'T seen in MOST battles?

Robin isn't a being that can merge with you, he's not like a symbiote like BT is.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Robin isn't a being that can merge with you,

that's not what batman thinks

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except....he doesn't have a bond like Eddie and the symbiote. This is the lie that some are trying to peddle.

There are many, MANY times where Blade goes into battle with no BT. The War of the Realms, for example.

The Khonshu war.

Even in the current Phoenix storyline, BT is left behind to babysit the Starbrand. BT is his own person.

The Klyntar aka the symbiote are also their own personal but uses hosts to have stronger forms, Blade has a good bond with BT, It's WHY It has chosen to stay with Eric and also saved his life. Obviously.

Originally posted by Philosophía
In case of equipment, something that you can whip out without any prep being specifically done beforehand.

In case of semi-sentient or sentient tools, likes Thor's Mjolnir or Surfer's board, something that you have at you at all times except very particular storylines [Unworthy Thor, for obvious reasons].

In case of actual characters, something that is intrinsically the character and used to fight at all times [like Eddie/Venom], and not something that you only use once in a while, or is a completely separate being [like Robin].

Same reason BRB doesn't come equipped with Skuttlebutt in standard versus threads, for example.

And the argument is that consistent possession (especially relative to other equipment) over a period of 2 years would meet the criteria of standard.

Does Batman use everything in his utility belt whenever he fights?

Originally posted by Galan007
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Same reason BRB doesn't come equipped with Skuttlebutt in standard versus threads, for example.

Do you think Boy Thing is standard equipment for Blade?

I.e. if someone like say Damborg created a thread and said standard equipment for Blade, do we assume he has Boy Thing?

oh ho! sneaky way to try and slip in a mod ruling.... lol