What is standard equipment???

Started by Bentley10 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Examples of Standard Equipment: Boy Thing

Examples of non-Standard Equipment: Anything Batman has used from his belt outside of vanilla Batarangs and his hook-shot

This was the mod ruling DS was expecting

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you think Boy Thing is standard equipment for Blade?

I.e. if someone like say Damborg created a thread and said standard equipment for Blade, do we assume he has Boy Thing?

I don't know enough about Blade to say for sure. /shrug

Is the Ultimate Nullifier standard for Galactus?

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't know enough about Blade to say for sure. /shrug

Blade boys have been ridiculed on KMC for 20 years, that's all you need to know.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't know enough about Blade to say for sure. /shrug

Lmao fair enough.

So based on Phildo's post:

In case of actual characters, something that is intrinsically the character and used to fight at all times [like Eddie/Venom], and not something that you only use once in a while, or is a completely separate being [like Robin].

As Boy Thing is an actual character, I guess Trackz or marcssands or whoever would have to prove that BT is intrinsically a part of Blade and used to fight at all times, not just once in a while.

Or is a completely separate being.

Interesting.

Trackz, can you do so?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao fair enough.

So based on Phildo's post:

As Boy Thing is an actual character, I guess Trackz or marcssands or whoever would have to prove that BT is intrinsically a part of Blade and used to fight at all times, not just once in a while.

Or is a completely separate being.

Interesting.

Trackz, can you do so?

it's already been done.

majority of his arcs over 2 years since getting him beats the standard of "only once in a while". this is what people have been repeatedly telling you.

boy-thing is bonded to Blade, and that's been shown for the majority of Boy-things appearances.

arguing that boy-thing is a completely separate being when he has been used for symbiotic combat enhancement since his introduction as a character is disingenuous. Your dishonest arguments are exhausting.

Nice. So we can get a mod ruling 😛

For Galan and others:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And here is every appearance of Blade in the War of the Realms book proper:

No BT.

That was the War of the Realms itself.

War of the Realms Strikeforce: The Dark Elf Realm:

No BT.

In Avengers itself, when he fought MAlekith's forces:
https://i.postimg.cc/cgxGFZ3G/RCO003-w-1558531659.jpg[/img]

In King in Black:
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9tyJR9d/RCO005-w-1611167287.jpg
Didn't bring him when he went to deal with Drac, either:
https://i.postimg.cc/VLJHQdfP/RCO015-w-1608739227.jpg

Against Khonshu (so back to the Avengers book):
https://i.postimg.cc/5YV21ZFs/11-14.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/d7dVbqD7/13-8.jpg

In the current Phoenix storyline:
https://i.postimg.cc/nVW8wJHw/15-11.jpg

When going into Hell against the Ghost Rider:
https://i.postimg.cc/L8hjMmvr/RCO005-1571861888.jpg

Now, let us return to what the original post said:

In case of actual characters, something that is intrinsically the character and used to fight at all times [like Eddie/Venom], and not something that you only use once in a while, or is a completely separate being [like Robin].

Emphasis mine. Decision, yours. You have all read Trackz's posts. He said:

boy-thing is bonded to Blade, and that's been shown for the majority of Boy-things appearances.

I've just posted....15-16 issues of Blade, fighting, WITHOUT Boy Thing. Out of ~30-40 issues of comics, of which Blade only appears ~20 times (he doesn't appear in every single issue of Avengers, some are flashbacks to the past etc), and out of which Blade doesn't FIGHT every single issue (him chilling around in the base doesn't count as a fight, lmao).

Anyway, am happy to draw a line under this if people wish to give a ruling or not.

But under the terms of Phildo's post, which Galan agrees with, Blade clearly does NOT use BT to fight at all times. The reasons may vary, or it may not even be explained - but the indisputable fact is, Blade does not carry BT into every single battle.

I'm not even talking about USING BT - I am talking about Blade even taking it onto the field. Which he clearly doesn't, as you can clearly see no BT on his shoulder.

You do know that standard equipment is changed or upgraded based on current arcs and current showings....

Cool. Not my point.

This... the Blade thing is that much of a sore point?

Originally posted by -Pr-
This... the Blade thing is that much of a sore point?

Well I am wondering if A: I am being blind to other arguments, and B: have I misunderstood forum rules this entire time.

If standard equipment can include items/characters that aren't seen that often in comics (and I'm not talking about USING, but even just carrying into combat), then that's very different to how I've been seeing things.

My point being Blade, in the past two years since he met Boy Thing, has multiple instances of not even bringing BT to the battlefield - yet it's standard equipment according to Trackz. My interpretation is closer to Phildo's.

So what IS standard equipment?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well I am wondering if A: I am being blind to other arguments, and B: have I misunderstood forum rules this entire time.

If standard equipment can include items/characters that aren't seen that often in comics (and I'm not talking about USING, but even just carrying into combat), then that's very different to how I've been seeing things.

My point being Blade, in the past two years since he met Boy Thing, has multiple instances of not even bringing BT to the battlefield - yet it's standard equipment according to Trackz. My interpretation is closer to Phildo's.

So what IS standard equipment?

Batman is RARELY show using all the equipment that is standard, He's also rarely bringing them into combat (He literally switches things around). Atleast try to be fair to both sides, you can't have one.

But like I said many times, we don't KNOW what Batman brings in his belt. If you can, with 100% certainty, tell me EXACTLY what he has in his belt, then sure, I concede.

On the other hand, I can with 100% certainty post examples of Blade NOT even bringing BT into battle. L

Originally posted by -Pr-
This... the Blade thing is that much of a sore point?

.........

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well I am wondering if A: I am being blind to other arguments, and B: have I misunderstood forum rules this entire time.

If standard equipment can include items/characters that aren't seen that often in comics (and I'm not talking about USING, but even just carrying into combat), then that's very different to how I've been seeing things.

My point being Blade, in the past two years since he met Boy Thing, has multiple instances of not even bringing BT to the battlefield - yet it's standard equipment according to Trackz. My interpretation is closer to Phildo's.

So what IS standard equipment?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Batman is RARELY show using all the equipment that is standard, He's also rarely bringing them into combat (He literally switches things around). Atleast try to be fair to both sides, you can't have one.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But like I said many times, we don't KNOW what Batman brings in his belt. If you can, with 100% certainty, tell me EXACTLY what he has in his belt, then sure, I concede.

On the other hand, I can with 100% certainty post examples of Blade NOT even bringing BT into battle. L

so....yes. 😂

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But like I said many times, we don't KNOW what Batman brings in his belt. If you can, with 100% certainty, tell me EXACTLY what he has in his belt, then sure, I concede.

On the other hand, I can with 100% certainty post examples of Blade NOT even bringing BT into battle. L

😂 SO you admit there isn't 100% certainty that Batman always cares what you kept showing about his standard gear as you said you don't know.

I know for certain Blade doesn't bring BT around all of the time, so he's not standard. I can prove this easily.

OTOH, it's on you (or anyone else) to prove Batman doesn't bring X around all the time with him.

See how this fairness works?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I know for certain Blade doesn't bring BT around all of the time, so he's not standard. I can prove this easily.

OTOH, it's on you (or anyone else) to prove Batman doesn't bring X around all the time with him.

See how this fairness works?

OK, Do you have 100% certainty that Batman ALWAYS has what he has or do you have doubts, Yes or no?

Standard for Blade: Everything he has ever used even once

Standard for Batman: Exactly 5 batarangs (dulled so they dont take off human limbs) and his grappling hook. Anything else has to be specified as a prep related thread.

Please make this ruling happen.

Standard for Punisher:

- Rulkbuster armor

- Ultimate Nullifier

- Grand Nixon Island nuke

- Powers of Angels, Frankenstein, Dr. Strange and Venom

- steamroller