Hulk vs versatility 1

Started by leonidas18 pages

dd definitely showed more focus in regards to being able to adapt, but we know weaker hulks can adapt to breathing underwater and fury has said hulk can evolve to the point where he doesn't need oxygen if he were put in orbit. his varying degrees of healing are types of adaptation, as is his ability to perform the impossible feats i mentioned above. more recently he's been shown to both both absorb and emit energy, and of course his now immortal nature. his rage enables him to do things that...don't make sense like resist mind control, grow new glands in his body, his blood makes f'n flowers grow ffs 😂 none of these abilities are strength related. but he's been pigeon holed as this one dimensional brick. if his full range of abilities were taken into account, i think he's more than just a brick. quite a bit more.

I just feel like hulk isn’t given the same....consideration as other characters are. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
dd definitely showed more focus in regards to being able to adapt, but we know weaker hulks can adapt to breathing underwater and fury has said hulk can evolve to the point where he doesn't need oxygen if he were put in orbit. his varying degrees of healing are types of adaptation, as is his ability to perform the impossible feats i mentioned above. more recently he's been shown to both both absorb and emit energy, and of course his now immortal nature. his rage enables him to do things that...don't make sense like resist mind control, grow new glands in his body, his blood makes f'n flowers grow ffs 😂 none of these abilities are strength related. but he's been pigeon holed as this one dimensional brick. if his full range of abilities were taken into account, i think he's more than just a brick. quite a bit more.

Disagree on the rage making mind control resistence, but other than that(which I do see get brought up when he faces a telepath, at least previously) I have a feeling a lot of the more weird ones are rare to the point in a regular topic, they'd be pretty situational. Someone familiar could use them in a BZ, but it seems weird for them to be brought up in general unless it's a topic like this.

Imo, it’s hulks dynamic power set. We know that his strength, durability, healing and arguably speed increase in correlation to anger. We know that the longer the fight goes, the higher the chances of hulk winning are. We’ve also seen him spike to incredible levels from a calm state. It’s similar to Superman’s “overcome anything” effect. I’ll use the animated avengers series as an example, (non canon, I know) when a large meteor was about to hit earth, In his panic and desperation cap looked to the hulk to destroy it. Keep in mind Thor and Ironman were on the field. Then there’s the onslaught scene.

Let me ask you this: If you were trapped in an adamantium box, would you pick one the characters you listed or the hulk to help break you free?

Originally posted by Booya_69
Imo, it’s hulks dynamic power set. We know that his strength, durability, healing and arguably speed increase in correlation to anger. We know that the longer the fight goes, the higher the chances of hulk winning are. We’ve also seen him spike to incredible levels from a calm state. It’s similar to Superman’s “overcome anything” effect. I’ll use the animated avengers series as an example, (non canon, I know) when a large meteor was about to hit earth, In his panic and desperation cap looked to the hulk to destroy it. Keep in mind Thor and Ironman were on the field. Then there’s the onslaught scene.

Let me ask you this: If you were trapped in an adamantium box, would you pick one the characters you listed or the hulk to help break you free?

That's a very limited scenario.

Easy answer, the Hulk. Nothing can hold him. Lol, Hulk punches a hole in a shield that even the Ebony Blade couldn't breach...

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk also breaks through the castles invulnerable walls when no-one else could:
Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's a very limited scenario.

Maybe, maybe not. It’s the scenario nonetheless.

Originally posted by Booya_69
Maybe, maybe not. It’s the scenario nonetheless.

Naw. It's phucking stupid. You just cherry picked a scenario catering to his strength. You guys debate tactics are extremely disingenuous sometimes

What if the scenario called for someone to lift classic Mjolnir?

Would you choose Hulk, Magneto or Graviton?

Hmmm so tough!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if the scenario called for someone to lift classic Mjolnir?

Would you choose Hulk, Magneto or Graviton?

Hmmm so tough!

I see your point (One arbitrary impossible scenerio where Hulk is best pick for another)

But bet you Magneto actually does it. 😂

If using the pure of heart, (social justice) warrior Magneto.

Let me ask you this: If you were trapped in an adamantium box, would you pick one the characters you listed or the hulk to help break you free?

While adamantium does absorb some of the kinetic force used against it, it's not vibranium (far from it).

Hulk would kill anyone inside by trying to smash it apart.

And he would fail to do so, too --- Banner admitted on panel that genuine adamantium is unbreakable even by WWH's and Skaar's standards.

Originally posted by leonidas
if his full range of abilities were taken into account, i think he's more than just a brick. quite a bit more.

Of course he is. And back in the day, his mutations produced plenty of unexpected results:

But it's better to focus on the abilities that are a part of his standard powerset.

Such as the ones you mentioned.

Or his resistance against transmutation.

Interaction with ghosts, always finding his way to the gamma bomb site and so on.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if the scenario called for someone to lift classic Mjolnir?

Would you choose Hulk, Magneto or Graviton?

Hmmm so tough!

Not sure of the point here. If my car breaks down I want a mechanic. if I’m in a fight I want the best fighter. I don’t really care if he can fix a car so long as he helps me win the fight. It really isn’t that tough.

Originally posted by leonidas
Not sure of the point here. If my car breaks down I want a mechanic. if I’m in a fight I want the best fighter. I don’t really care if he can fix a car so long as he helps me win the fight. It really isn’t that tough.

It's a variation on the stupid ultra narrow scenerio with the adamantium cage.

The point is stacking the deck in Hulks favor by asking who you'd pick to break a true adamantium cage is about as realistic as asking who can lift Mjolnir.

Obviously the strongest guy is who you pick, that's the entire point of the scenerio. It's also equally as impossible, Hulk can no more break the cage then lift the hammer.

If it was a Flash fanboy, they could ask "Who would you pick to reach Reed Richards in his infinite room, Flash, Ben Grimm, Spider-Man".

Same exact nonsense.

Cdtm got it and he's at least as old as you sneer

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if the scenario called for someone to lift classic Mjolnir?

Would you choose Hulk, Magneto or Graviton?

Hmmm so tough!

has the hulk ever lifted mjolnir using his strength am not because one being worthy some how.

Originally posted by carver9
They considered Doomsday growing bones over his ears as adapting, lol, but discredit Hulk adapting showings that far exceeds that and let's not pretend Doomsday adapted to physical Damage because this was never shown.
The only adapting feat Hulk has that I know of is breathing underwater. Is there anything else?

DD adapted to the sword, to the OE, to energy brings, etc. More importantly he was stated to be able to evolve on the fly and implied by the writer (through the mother box) that the only thing that could kill him is entropy.

Originally posted by h1a8
The only adapting feat Hulk has that I know of is breathing underwater. Is there anything else?

DD adapted to the sword, to the OE, to energy brings, etc. More importantly he was stated to be able to evolve on the fly and implied by the writer (through the mother box) that the only thing that could kill him is entropy.

If there is more, does it really matter to you? Tell me your first thought on that question.

He didn't adapt to the sword, he HEALED the damage. Show me him adapting to the Omegas.

It was said Hulk could evolve on the fly. 😂

Is it just wording you're looking for?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cdtm got it and he's at least as old as you sneer

he is...? jawdrop

Yeah, but unlike you, his skull got cracked open a dozen times.

And he still got the point sneer

Originally posted by Diesldude
has the hulk ever lifted mjolnir using his strength am not because one being worthy some how.

No. Strength wouldn't do it at all.

Magneto could lift it with his powers, as could Graviton. Hence my usage.