Originally posted by leonidasexactly my point if he had unlimited strength he should be able to overcome a enchantment with his physicality.
crazy site doesn't allow edits now.... the hammer being lifted by only the worthy is one of the VERY few things marvel has actually somehow kept consistent through the years. i actually kind of like it. hulk would need to overcome a skyfather enchantment to lift it, and even at wbh levels i don't see that happening. there is no one below odin level who is not worthy that could left it, so i don't really count it against hulk.
It’s like immovable object vs unstoppable force except the immovable object isn’t immovable because anyone above Odin should be able to move it/ lift it.
So hulk has a cap on strength. Up to or below sky father level. 👆
it's not venom you should be asking about, it's the cosmic enigma force, and even thor and ss have no idea how or why it happened. it certainly wasn't strength though. show me one person who has overcome the enchantment with strength--above or below odin. the concept of 'worth' is similar to the concept of 'truth'. hulk can't lift the hammer for the same reason superman can't break the lasso. /shrug
Originally posted by carver9
If there is more, does it really matter to you? Tell me your first thought on that question.He didn't adapt to the sword, he HEALED the damage. Show me him adapting to the Omegas.
It was said Hulk could evolve on the fly. 😂
Is it just wording you're looking for?
It matters. Because if Hulk doesn't have anything more then he doesn't have that ability. Show me a scan where it says Hulk could evolve on the fly (or issue numbers).
Well either he adapted to the OE or he is insane durable (far more than Superman). Darkseid instantly vaporized a missile (with half his power) that Superman, using all of his might, couldn't put a scratch on. In that arc, the half power of the OE was MANY times more powerful than Superman. Yet DD tanked the full power without any damage. So do you believe DD is that durable (many times over Superman's power) or did he adapt to the OE on the fly?
DD adapted to Superman fighting him from long distances (his claws grew out like scorpion from Mortal Kombat). DD adapted to Waverider's chrono energy and defeated a time stop.
But most importantly, we have writer's intent. The writer was trying to show that DD can evolve on the fly. The comic even stated that DD can evolve to beat ANY opponent. Evolution is a WELL ESTABLISHED part of DD's power set.
Hulk has one feat from a lone writer of him breathing underwater. Yet, to you, that means Hulk has the ability to evolve to any attack. If that is the case then Hulk failed to show it EVERYTIME he fought someone.
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I don’t know why Superman has to be on everyone’s mind. But it’s cool, people want to compare “their guy” with the best there is and that is Superman. thumb up
Now on to the lasso.
1) it is magical in nature.
2) the “enchantment” is to get the truth.
3) getting the truth from Superman will work because it’s magical in nature and 2 no physicality involved.
4) Superman hasn’t tried to break it but has broken her bracelets made from the same stuff. Also we don’t know how the enchantment (magic) affects Superman when it’s wrapped around him.
5) it is beyond skyfather level because it even affected PS.
Of course I know it wasn’t venom. He had captain universe in him. How powerful is captain universe with a symbiote? Skyfather +
Maybe he was worthy like stilt said( great minds I had already considered this as well) but what about Hela? It’s from the mcu so it might doesnt count. But I’ll give you a unworthy that lifted the hammer and wielded it and we know he’s a skyfather.
And that is Odiin. He lifted it and wielded it.
Skyfather level strength.
Originally posted by h1a8
It matters. Because if Hulk doesn't have anything more then he doesn't have that ability. Show me a scan where it says Hulk could evolve on the fly (or issue numbers).Well either he adapted to the OE or he is insane durable (far more than Superman). Darkseid instantly vaporized a missile (with half his power) that Superman, using all of his might, couldn't put a scratch on. In that arc, the half power of the OE was MANY times more powerful than Superman. Yet DD tanked the full power without any damage. So do you believe DD is that durable (many times over Superman's power) or did he adapt to the OE on the fly?
DD adapted to Superman fighting him from long distances (his claws grew out like scorpion from Mortal Kombat). DD adapted to Waverider's chrono energy and defeated a time stop.
But most importantly, we have writer's intent. The writer was trying to show that DD can evolve on the fly. The comic even stated that DD can evolve to beat ANY opponent. Evolution is a WELL ESTABLISHED part of DD's power set.
Hulk has one feat from a lone writer of him breathing underwater. Yet, to you, that means Hulk has the ability to evolve to any attack. If that is the case then Hulk failed to show it EVERYTIME he fought someone.
It doesn't matter to you though. Let's not pretend here.
Why would I post that scan for you? It serves no purpose. Maybe if someone credible would ask for it, I would show them but you would dispute the color red being red. I'll pass.
Shooting spikes out of your hand isn't adapting, it's an ability. Marrow can shoot bones from her body, is the adapting? Hulk can release gamma energy from his body, is that adapting or does this just apply to Doomsday?
Again I ask, prove that Doomsday adapted to Darkseid Omegas. That can easily be a durability ft.
Show me Doomsday adapting to Time Stop.
Writer intent means nothing, EXCEPT when the person that is mentioning it to settle a dispute. Doesn't fly here. Anything else?
Originally posted by leonidas
@diesl. Show me someone unworthy above Odin who lifted it?
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Infinity-Entity/Issue-1?id=74449
Originally posted by carver9
It doesn't matter to you though. Let's not pretend here.Why would I post that scan for you? It serves no purpose. Maybe if someone credible would ask for it, I would show them but you would dispute the color red being red. I'll pass.
Shooting spikes out of your hand isn't adapting, it's an ability. Marrow can shoot bones from her body, is the adapting? Hulk can release gamma energy from his body, is that adapting or does this just apply to Doomsday?
Again I ask, prove that Doomsday adapted to Darkseid Omegas. That can easily be a durability ft.
Show me Doomsday adapting to Time Stop.
Writer intent means nothing, EXCEPT when the person that is mentioning it to settle a dispute. Doesn't fly here. Anything else?
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