Hulk vs versatility 1

Started by StiltmanFTW18 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No. Strength wouldn't do it at all.

Magneto could lift it with his powers, as could Graviton. Hence my usage.

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Getting a dumb robot to do that job would work, too.

Or an elevator vin

Or the Enigma Force 😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No. Strength wouldn't do it at all.

Magneto could lift it with his powers, as could Graviton. Hence my usage.

disappointing, supposedly infinite strength can’t overcome a enchantment that tests physical strength.

It doesn’t test physical strength it tests worthiness.

crazy site doesn't allow edits now.... the hammer being lifted by only the worthy is one of the VERY few things marvel has actually somehow kept consistent through the years. i actually kind of like it. hulk would need to overcome a skyfather enchantment to lift it, and even at wbh levels i don't see that happening. there is no one below odin level who is not worthy that could left it, so i don't really count it against hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No. Strength wouldn't do it at all.

Magneto could lift it with his powers, as could Graviton. Hence my usage.

Forgot about that.

Now I remember, inanimate objects like Vision could move it too.

So would armored up Tony Stark lift it? Does it know the difference between a remotely controlled shell and inhabited?

Originally posted by leonidas
crazy site doesn't allow edits now.... the hammer being lifted by only the worthy is one of the VERY few things marvel has actually somehow kept consistent through the years. i actually kind of like it. hulk would need to overcome a skyfather enchantment to lift it, and even at wbh levels i don't see that happening. there is no one below odin level who is not worthy that could left it, so i don't really count it against hulk.

Why can't Hulk just adapt to it and lift it hmm

apparently his ability to adapt falls short of skyfather level magic...?

Is Skyfather level versatility where he caps out then?

Or can we go further down the tiering to get his limit?

Originally posted by leonidas
It doesn’t test physical strength it tests worthiness.

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Dies is a classic Superman fan. Knows everything about him, but won't recognize Marvel's most popular characters even if you threaten him with a nuclear bomb.

Trouble is, worthiness is vague as hfil.

No real reason Hulk couldn't be worthy on any given day, when they make it up as they go.

Originally posted by cdtm
Trouble is, worthiness is vague as hfil.

No real reason Hulk couldn't be worthy on any given day, when they make it up as they go.

Agreed.

Hulk had plenty of heroic moments (or even whole arcs) and, much like Thor, has that problem of becoming more and more like his dad.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is Skyfather level versatility where he caps out then?

Or can we go further down the tiering to get his limit?

Beats me. Would wbh beat odin in a fist fight? Maybe the worthy thing is like the lasso and exceeds its origin. Not lifting the hammer is no more reflective of power than getting trapped in the lasso is so whatever point you’re trying to make with it is meaningless.

@stilt. I agree. He’s done enough to have been worthy at times IMO too. But look how long it took ss to become truly worthy. The whole worthy thing is weird but at least it’s been mostly consistent I guess

Originally posted by leonidas
Beats me. Would wbh beat odin in a fist fight? Maybe the worthy thing is like the lasso and exceeds its origin. Not lifting the hammer is no more reflective of power than getting trapped in the lasso is so whatever point you’re trying to make with it is meaningless.

If Odin did a spell to control Hulk's blood, would he succeed or would Hulk 'adapt' to it?

If Odin reversed gravity a la Graviton, would Hulk power through it?

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If Odin did a spell to control Hulk's blood, would he succeed or would Hulk 'adapt' to it?

If Odin reversed gravity a la Graviton, would Hulk power through it?

Gravity is like Oxygen.

It grows plants.

Hulk is the adaptable one there is. Hulk adapts to posters.

Posters become Hulk.

Hulk smart.

Posters now smart.

Just like Hulk.

Odin > In-betweener confirmed.

Odin has always been in between. Too much, some might say.

Originally posted by leonidas
@stilt. I agree. He’s done enough to have been worthy at times IMO too. But look how long it took ss to become truly worthy. The whole worthy thing is weird but at least it’s been mostly consistent I guess

Surfer is just cosmic energy in a silver shell, how is that any different then Vision?