Omnipotence vs. Omniscience

In a forum fight, what would be more useful?

A character with true omnipotence (absent omniscience) or a character with true omniscience, but no other powers?

If you're truly omnipotent, you can give yourself omniscience.

But if you're just omniscient you can be.....impotent.

"I know the exact second my opponent's fist will smash into my nose!!"

VS

"I turn my opponent into a swarm of soap bubbles."

Hmm. Tough.

"I know all the ways I will lose to my opponent and there's nothing I can do about it. Swell. "

Originally posted by Phil
If you're truly omnipotent, you can give yourself omniscience.

yeah that's a weird question. omniscience is just one part of omnipotence...

what about impotence?

Going by the Doctrine of Divine Simplicity omnipotence and omniscience is the same thing, just as any other absolute attribute.

The argument is based on the premise that God is the greatest being conceivable, and since aseity is better than a dependent existence, God is a se. So God's existence is independent of everything which means that God isn't a composite of parts (since a composite of parts depend on its parts to be what it is), that is to say God is simple. In other words God's existence and essence, essence and attribute, and attribute and attribute are all the same thing.

This is pretty cool because it implies that the attributes associated with God (omnipotence, omniscience, etc.) are facets of the same indivisible concept.

Originally posted by Astner
Going by the Doctrine of Divine Simplicity omnipotence and omniscience is the same thing, just as any other absolute attribute.

The argument is based on the premise that God is the greatest being conceivable, and since aseity is better than a dependent existence, God is a se. So God's existence is independent of everything which means that God isn't a composite of parts (since a composite of parts depend on its parts to be what it is), that is to say God is simple. In other words God's existence and essence, essence and attribute, and attribute and attribute are all the same thing.

This is pretty cool because it implies that the attributes associated with God (omnipotence, omniscience, etc.) are facets of the same indivisible concept.

I’ll take omnipotent it’s more of a physical form than the metaphysical and your always hard 🤙

God can transform so that your argument of simplicity is wrong. Jesus transforms after the resurrection.
I’d choose omniscience. I’d be able to evoke any action.

With Omnipotence, you’re all powerful. That means you can give yourself omniscience, or take it away like a few posters claimed already.

God said ‘ I am the first and the last.’ That means that one is throughout. So that taking away wouldn’t win.

I mean that there are ways to counter things.

Energy that increases forever ♾ could form a unclassified stop on the ball that rolls back down the hill for instance if you use that example.

So you can see how knowing any solution can improve the battle. Then you can outdo the power.

Of course the power throughout would become something infinitely greater and the battle can rage on.

Originally posted by MrMind
what about impotence?

What about it, you have a problem???? Huh do you???

Oh you weren't talking about me......

Move along nothing to see here

Originally posted by MrMind
what about impotence?

Asking the real questions here 👆

Omnimpotent mhmm