Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I want you to realize he is a z-lister.Barely tagging an injured z-lister and needing newgodly stats and newgodly weapon to do so is just as "impressive" as Mr. Hyde beating Jarvis... or this:
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1. Even at 50%, he has better speed feats than Logan
2. He didn't use a newgodly weapon to do so. He used a normal steel beam. First Grundy, now this - you are really slacking, Stilt.
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Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I never said you can't use anything. Even if I did, would you listen to me. What I am saying is, you have a history of fts to pull from unless you believe that is Wolverine only high, best of the best showing.
You know what?
I am going to call you out on this for all to see.
Q: Carver, is this Wolverine's best showing, Y/N?
If yes, then I am absolutely justified in using it in this thread.
If no, then it is exactly what I and many others have said over the years - in the WWH storyline, characters were written down at less then their best to make Hulk look good.
The decision, is yours Carv. Yes or No?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1. Even at 50%, he has better speed feats than Logan
2. He didn't use a newgodly weapon to do so. He used a normal steel beam. First Grundy, now this - you are really slacking, Stilt.
1. He is still a z-lister... based on another z-lister from WW2. Now I've seen everything.
2. That I am. When you think of it, a normal steel beam is probably more effective than his Beta Club, though 😂
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I want you to realize he is a z-lister.Barely tagging an injured z-lister and needing newgodly stats and newgodly weapon to do so is just as "impressive" as Mr. Hyde beating Jarvis... or this:
Lol... but the Flashes are Z listers as well...
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You know what?I am going to call you out on this for all to see.
[B]Q: Carver, is this Wolverine's best showing, Y/N?
If yes, then I am absolutely justified in using it in this thread.
If no, then it is exactly what I and many others have said over the years - in the WWH storyline, characters were written down at less then their best to make Hulk look good.
The decision, is yours Carv. Yes or No? [/B]
I'm going to say this again, if you feel it's Wolverine best, then use what you want but just know, Wolverine have more than just this showing and I will use that as well to back Wolverine stomping Kalibak face in. Wolverine has been out for a long time, so his showing against someone who is far superior than Kalibak can be used along with Wolverine other showings.
The Hulk also heals at a rate that far surpasses this entourage. Using him solely as a means to determine this leaves out several details. Punching his claws through their heads like he did to the Green Scar would absolutely phuch these guys up, and yes there is possibility of him cutting off their limbs. Wolverine can score big damage on Thanos and other Sky Father level opponents. He cut Odin Force Thor, and Thor isn't as susceptible to being cut or punctured as Wonder Woman is. That's a myth.
Futher proof is in his ability to pass right through Gladiator's puncture durability. He can definitely score heavy damage on this crew imo.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to say this again, if you feel it's Wolverine best, then use what you want but just know, Wolverine have more than just this showing and I will use that as well to back Wolverine stomping Kalibak face in. Wolverine has been out for a long time, so his showing against someone who is far superior than Kalibak can be used along with Wolverine other showings.
So no .
Thanks
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1. He is still a z-lister... based on another z-lister from WW2. Now I've seen everything.2. That I am. When you think of it, a normal steel beam is probably more effective than his Beta Club, though 😂
Lmao.
How does Logan do against Ulik? He's probably the closest analogue I can think of in the Marvel U. Have they ever fought?
Interesting. The same book Dark used for a speed ft while also accepting Kalibak statement of speed, it was mentioned that Kalibak is near Supermans equal...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They have. Once.Unresolved, but Ulik seemed to have gained the upper hand before Thor arrived out of nowhere and cheapshotted him.
Interesting. Ulik doesn't have any long range weaponry, though. But yeah, he's a similar character to Kalibak,being bestial bricks who are herald opponents (Thor/Supes).
Logan back won't be turned either. His back was turned and he was injured. We need to determine how fast he was going which is near impossible but what we do know is, he was hurt, badly AND Kalibak hit him in the back. When they were face to face, Kalibak could not touch him. Did you forget about this???
So you're telling me that when a speedster was travelling, Kalibak was still able to tag him in mid travel?
That's what the feat is here, btw. You don't understand what you're seeing and what I'm arguing.
A speedster was travelling. This is not about reflex speed, but travel speed. If someone is able to throw a baseball and hit Surfer (for example) as he is flying and trying to escape, is that not a feat?
Am I not amazing at baseball throwing, if I can hit a fly in mid air? If Hulk throws a rock and hits a speeding Surfer, is that not amazing?
As I said, and you have read the issue, so don't play coy - even when injured, Max was still far faster than Logan ever was or is.
And Kalibak tagged him.
I feel confident outside of this debate, you would not have accepted this as a ft...
Let's be real here. Anyways, Surfer isn't injured there and like I've been saying this entire time, one showings doesn't justify how a fight would go or people like Hulk shouldn't be able to even scratch Thor (Celestial showing). Wolverine cuts him apart.
Originally posted by carver9
I feel confident outside of this debate, you would not have accepted this as a ft...Let's be real here. Anyways, Surfer isn't injured there and like I've been saying this entire time, one showings doesn't justify how a fight would go or people like Hulk shouldn't be able to even scratch Thor (Celestial showing). Wolverine cuts him apart.
There's a reason I specifically said tagging Surfer, lol.
But even injured, Max is still far beyond Logan in speed.
I am using Kalibak at his best, as per forum rules.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There's a reason I specifically said tagging Surfer, lol.But even injured, Max is still far beyond Logan in speed.
I am using Kalibak at his best, as per forum rules.
😂 😂 ... do you use Thor and Surfer at their best? Answer carefully because I can easily pull up a thread.