Re: Being critical of Immigration does not make you racist.
Originally posted by KlawWell to be fair most often times when conservatives are talking about Immigration today they're referring to a specific subset of Immigrants as the undesirable ones. Shithole countries and all of that nonsense.
Immigrant refers to a persons' status regarding their citizenship.It does not refer in any way to their age, sex, race etc.
But people like to call you racist if you say anything critical of Immigration.
Most often times it's pretty easy to see these divides almost always can be drawn down the racial line. White European immigrants are from good countries. Brown/black immigrants come from the bad countries.
So did you know Switzerland has a higher standard of living compared to the US?
Where is all that pressure to accept refugees for them?
I also discovered Switzerland is highly racist, according to people who work and live there. For example, they have the French side where only French are allowed to go (Perhaps not officially, but everyone knows the rules there...)
Originally posted by cdtm
So did you know Switzerland has a higher standard of living compared to the US?Where is all that pressure to accept refugees for them?
I also discovered Switzerland is highly racist, according to people who work and live there. For example, they have the French side where only French are allowed to go (Perhaps not officially, but everyone knows the rules there...)
Switzerland is already accepting refugees, I thought.
Originally posted by cdtmWhat exactly is your point?
So did you know Switzerland has a higher standard of living compared to the US?Where is all that pressure to accept refugees for them?
I also discovered Switzerland is highly racist, according to people who work and live there. For example, they have the French side where only French are allowed to go (Perhaps not officially, but everyone knows the rules there...)
Re: Being critical of Immigration does not make you racist.
Originally posted by Klaw
Immigrant refers to a persons' status regarding their citizenship.It does not refer in any way to their age, sex, race etc.
But people like to call you racist if you say anything critical of Immigration.
Of course.... and unfortunately you pointing this out is not going to make them change their ignorant behavior of calling us racists. Doesn't matter how many times we repeat it is not about race. They don't care because they oh so love to use the "you're racist!" BS card.
I am for the most part supportive of actual, legitimate, legal immigration... the hundreds of thousands of people that've been overrunning our border over past few months are not immigrants though, they're illegal aliens no matter how much leftists continue to sugarcoat it by calling them 'undocumented" immigrants.
And the Biden/Harris team is doing jacksquat about it. Why? Quite simple.... it's because that is what they actually want.
Re: Re: Being critical of Immigration does not make you racist.
Originally posted by Newjak
Well to be fair most often times when conservatives are talking about Immigration today they're referring to a specific subset of Immigrants as the undesirable ones. Shithole countries and all of that nonsense.Most often times it's pretty easy to see these divides almost always can be drawn down the racial line. White European immigrants are from good countries. Brown/black immigrants come from the bad countries.
Well I'm definitely not one of those types.
There are good and bad people regardless of race and country.
Re: Re: Re: Being critical of Immigration does not make you racist.
Originally posted by KlawThat's fine but you can't ignore the reality that is a common way people view immigration and that can be broken down by racial lines.
Well I'm definitely not one of those types.There are good and bad people regardless of race and country.
Originally posted by Newjak
What exactly is your point?
That countries like the US and UK and such have tremendous pressure to accept refugees on one hand, yet that pressure is not exerted equally against countries that are held up as ideals.
Take Israel, everyones favorite first world power whipping boy (For good reason). In the early 2k's or so, the prime minister at the time shamed the US for not doing more to accept every migrant it can. Yet this same person when asked about Palestinian refugees said migrants could not be Israel's responsibility, and he could not endorse one refugee on their soil.
I'm not saying this as a "Well this is worse" redirect, I just think there's total double standards on display, in plain sight, and few really seem to talk about them.
And I mean, I'm actually fine with the US accepting refugees here. But thats also a burdensome thing, and these supposed utopias, or those pointing fingers, should be made to accept their share too. Like, the entire top ten list of "Best countries to live", start with them and work your way down.
Originally posted by cdtmAs you yourself it's a redirect.
That countries like the US and UK and such have tremendous pressure to accept refugees on one hand, yet that pressure is not exerted equally against countries that are held up as ideals.Take Israel, everyones favorite first world power whipping boy (For good reason). In the early 2k's or so, the prime minister at the time shamed the US for not doing more to accept every migrant it can. Yet this same person when asked about Palestinian refugees said migrants could not be Israel's responsibility, and he could not endorse one refugee on their soil.
I'm not saying this as a "Well this is worse" redirect, I just think there's total double standards on display, in plain sight, and few really seem to talk about them.
And I mean, I'm actually fine with the US accepting refugees here. But thats also a burdensome thing, and these supposed utopias, or those pointing fingers, should be made to accept their share too. Like, the entire top ten list of "Best countries to live", start with them and work your way down.
Just because other countries aren't accepting refugees doesn't mean that makes the U.S. not doing it acceptable.
Also quick research shows that Israel has a higher refugee population per capita than the U.S. does. Now that could be the result of many things and maybe they do still have a bigoted view against Palestinian refugees which is bad. That doesn't mean they don't accept refugees though.
It's also true that Switzerland and Canada both have a higher refugee population on a per capita basis. In fact many European countries like the U.K., France, Belgium, Norway and others all have higher refugee populations then the U.S. Germany has one of the highest rates of their population being made up of refugees.
Originally posted by KlawFunny that you make that statement about Middle Eastern countries but when I looked at it a good number of Middle countries top out as the countries with the highest percentage of refugee populations as part of their country's population.
Leftists love saying how Canada and the U.S. needs to accept more refugees and immigrants.Funny how Middle Eastern countries or Asian countries don't.
I wonder why...
You also see a large number of African countries as well.
It makes sense to right because often times these countries are some of first countries where refugees would end up while fleeing their own.
Now you are correct about Asian countries like Japan being worse than the U.S. but the U.S. is still far from being near the top and being the country with the most resources that does not paint a good picture.
Originally posted by Klawthey’re overcrowded and suffer from cyclones, terrorism, dictators, famine and terrible oil mining that are alien to them.
Leftists love saying how Canada and the U.S. needs to accept more refugees and immigrants.Funny how Middle Eastern countries or Asian countries don't.
I wonder why...
Originally posted by Klaw
Leftists love saying how Canada and the U.S. needs to accept more refugees and immigrants.Funny how Middle Eastern countries or Asian countries don't.
I wonder why...
the western world suffers from ****ed up demographics due to how retirement system works, while africa and asia are overpopulated and have no problem with demographics (besides pretty westernized/civilized countries like Japan), that's why, lol
basically we need to import workers so the system doesn't collapse
now another thing is i would prefer to **** the retirement system altogether and the boomers but it's not like there's not an economical reason lol
Re: Re: Being critical of Immigration does not make you racist.
Originally posted by Newjak
Well to be fair most often times when conservatives are talking about Immigration today they're referring to a specific subset of Immigrants as the undesirable ones. Shithole countries and all of that nonsense.Most often times it's pretty easy to see these divides almost always can be drawn down the racial line. White European immigrants are from good countries. Brown/black immigrants come from the bad countries.
Bingo.
Originally posted by Klaw
Leftists love saying how Canada and the U.S. needs to accept more refugees and immigrants.Funny how Middle Eastern countries or Asian countries don't.
I wonder why...
We can actually fact check your Far-Right talking point again using the power of the interwebs.
Top 10 countries receive the most refugees per population ratio
1) Lebanon
2) Jordan
3) Nauru
4) Turkey
5) Liberia
6) Uganda
7) Malta
8) Sudan
9) Sweden
10) South Sudan
As you see, yet again, your Far-Right talking point which you've gleaned from OAN, Fox and which Far-Right youtube jabber is still bullshit.
The most important of these countries are for refugees:
Germany – 1,265,000 refugees (1.5% of the total population)
Ethiopia – 943,000 (0.8%)
United States – 773,000 (0.23%)
Bangladesh – 675,000 (0.4%)
Kenya – 394,000 (0.7%)
Russia – 453,000 (0.3%)
Cameroon – 416,000 (1.5%)
In addition to the refugees the United States has more than 46 million total immigrants, making up nearly 20 percent of the world’s total immigrant population. With over 1 million immigrants coming in year after year it's nearly 4 times the the next closest country of Germany.