Originally posted by Newjak
What I find so funny is go back 6 or so decades the difference between how illegal immigrants enter today is very similar to how legal immigrants entered then.Like for the majority of this country's existence it has had an open border 😂
Open it up, let everyone in, frankly I'll be one of the last folks affected by this, I hunt, fish, farm and online business has never been better. There is alot more than just immigrants to discuss when we look at the big picture. Can we support jobs/infrastructure etc do they spread out or congregate.....I'm sure the water shortage will be better server by illegal immigrants and won't cause a stir.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres nothing wrong with being critical of current immigration laws.Where it gets f***ed up is when you act as if most or all your countrys problems all harken back to immigration. Instead of just admitting the reality that its mostly down to corrupt politics.
No, immigration is a factor too. Cultural tension is a thing.
If it wasn't, ask yourself why Israeli jews and various arabs don't get along. They practically look identical, yet are always fighting.
It's cultural.
Originally posted by cdtmthat’s racist. I’ve gotten along with Sikh, Muslim, Jewish, Christian and Hindi people throughout my life and some were black, brown, white etc.
No, immigration is a factor too. Cultural tension is a thing.If it wasn't, ask yourself why Israeli jews and various arabs don't get along. They practically look identical, yet are always fighting.
It's cultural.
I assume you’re trying to address the Palestinian issue and simplifying it as “well, they all look alike”
Originally posted by Blakemore
that’s racist. I’ve gotten along with Sikh, Muslim, Jewish, Christian and Hindi people throughout my life and some were black, brown, white etc.I assume you’re trying to address the Palestinian issue and simplifying it as “well, they all look alike”
Not what I'm saying at all.
Sure, people from other cumtures get along too. Never said they couldn't.
But the fact is groups of people fight. Always have, always will.
Like the Italians and Irish did back when they were heavily immigrating. Italians were actually treated like Hispanic/Latino's get treated, researchers in published paper's talking about Italians like they talk about new immigrants now. The Italians came over, moved into communities full of other Italians, and inevitably had problems with other communities in the same area.
Originally posted by cdtmSo it goes back to wealth. Keep up!
Not what I'm saying at all.Sure, people from other cumtures get along too. Never said they couldn't.
But the fact is groups of people fight. Always have, always will.
Like the Italians and Irish did back when they were heavily immigrating. Italians were actually treated like Hispanic/Latino's get treated, researchers in published paper's talking about Italians like they talk about new immigrants now. The Italians came over, moved into communities full of other Italians, and inevitably had problems with other communities in the same area.
Originally posted by cdtmWe’ve moved on.
Not what I'm saying at all.Sure, people from other cumtures get along too. Never said they couldn't.
But the fact is groups of people fight. Always have, always will.
Like the Italians and Irish did back when they were heavily immigrating. Italians were actually treated like Hispanic/Latino's get treated, researchers in published paper's talking about Italians like they talk about new immigrants now. The Italians came over, moved into communities full of other Italians, and inevitably had problems with other communities in the same area.
…Atleast most of us have.
Originally posted by cdtm
No, immigration is a factor too. Cultural tension is a thing.If it wasn't, ask yourself why Israeli jews and various arabs don't get along. They practically look identical, yet are always fighting.
It's cultural.
Its An issue, not THE issue its made out to be.
Yeah problem is Israelis were not just immigrants. They are an occupying force. Otherwise Jews have lived there with Arabs for centuries.
Originally posted by gold slorg
the western world suffers from ****ed up demographics due to how retirement system works, while africa and asia are overpopulated and have no problem with demographics (besides pretty westernized/civilized countries like Japan), that's why, lolbasically we need to import workers so the system doesn't collapse
now another thing is i would prefer to **** the retirement system altogether and the boomers but it's not like there's not an economical reason lol
This is a good point.
We have an aging population and we need more young people in the system to pay taxes to support the older people.
People are having less children, so Immigration is the answer.