Originally posted by Grand-Moff-GavI think part of the issue is the premise of the debate is off.
This does not seem like a fruitful debate thus far...
Simply defining what immigration means and stating because it doesn't inherently involve race with implication that means being critical of immigration doesn't automatically make you racists doesn't matter.
Everyone knows you can be critical of the idea immigration and not be "racist". The problem is that a lot of historical contention to immigration was based on bigotry. Especially here in the U.S. Most objections to immigration in the U.S. has historically and even in the modern setting been about "protecting our heritage".
Which was more overtly stated in the past to be we don't want your kind here often depicting other races as uncivilized and undesirable.
So the whole foundation of this debate can be summed up as you're technically right about the idea but you're ignoring reality to do so.
Modern U.S. immigration critiques very much are drawn down racial lines from practical standpoint and whether people to admit or not the immigration laws that we have now disproportionately effect people along racial lines. Whether you want to believe that to be coincidence or designed is irrelevant to the previous mentioned statement's factual nature.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
This does not seem like a fruitful debate thus far...
Of course not. Kinda hard to have a productive discussion when leftist retards have it firmly set in their delusional minds that illegal aliens are "immigants" and so therefore conservatives hate immigrants and want them all deported lol.
When you can't even agree on what words mean kinda difficult to actually get anywhere.
It's also hard to have a productive discussion when no matter how many times you repeat that it is not about race leftists continue to bring it up because they're so damn obsessed with it and gender.
Trying to reason or have a productive discussion with leftists is like banging your head against a friggin' wall. Waste of time and energy.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae😂 😆 😂 😆
Of course not. Kinda hard to have a productive discussion when leftist retards have it firmly set in their delusional minds that illegal aliens are "immigants" and so therefore conservatives hate immigrants and want them all deported lol.When you can't even agree on what words mean kinda difficult to actually get anywhere.
It's also hard to have a productive discussion when no matter how many times you repeat that it is not about race leftists continue to bring it up because they're so damn obsessed with it and gender.
Trying to reason or have a productive discussion with leftists is like banging your head against a friggin' wall. Waste of time and energy.
Modern U.S. immigration critiques very much are drawn down racial lines from practical standpoint and whether people to admit or not the immigration laws that we have now disproportionately effect people along racial lines. Whether you want to believe that to be coincidence or designed is irrelevant to the previous mentioned statement's factual nature.
I assume you mean our southern border and how our immigrant policy affects those immigrants?
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Of course not. Kinda hard to have a productive discussion when leftist retards have it firmly set in their delusional minds that illegal aliens are "immigants" and so therefore conservatives hate immigrants and want them all deported lol.When you can't even agree on what words mean kinda difficult to actually get anywhere.
It's also hard to have a productive discussion when no matter how many times you repeat that it is not about race leftists continue to bring it up because they're so damn obsessed with it and gender.
Trying to reason or have a productive discussion with leftists is like banging your head against a friggin' wall. Waste of time and energy.
Umm, a person who comes from another country to live in the US by legal or illegal means is still an "immigrant".