Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not so sure about that. Entropy Aegis no sold omega beams and I don't recall energy attacks even affecting probes from Green Lantern and Earth Angels.
And while it wasn't mentioned in JLA: OWAW, Kyle was amped since this was during him becoming Ion(in fact his tie in covered it).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Amped on B13 tech. It was the same probe which no sold Earth Angels BTW.Several characters have done so.
Yeah, slicing Mjolnir in half is still very impressive - and I was pointing out that energy attacks HAVE in fact affected probes.
Supes also cracked it with HV and freeze breath. And cauterised another (the one he saved Arthur from). Then later, with his mindblocks off, he was blowing holes in them casually.
My point is, extreme energy attacks are enough to phuck them up. And I believe the Destroyer capable of doing so.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, slicing Mjolnir in half is still very impressive - and I was pointing out that energy attacks HAVE in fact affected probes.Supes also cracked it with HV and freeze breath. And cauterised another (the one he saved Arthur from). Then later, with his mindblocks off, he was blowing holes in them casually.
My point is, extreme energy attacks are enough to phuck them up. And I believe the Destroyer capable of doing so.
Superman was a plot device in OWAW, using him in comparison is pointless.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was using power of Imperiex just like all the probes did, that was the reason it was retrofitted with Apokolips tech.
OK?
My point was that it wasn't 'just' a probe shell. So saying the Omega Effect was no-sold by it doesn't automatically = a standard probe being able to no-sell it.
It's clear that the probes suffered from fiction inconsistency.
Destroyer and all other characters do too. Destroyer beams failed to effect shit that is supposedly weaker than adamantium (it failed to effect stuff that adamantium has cut before).
So you have highs and lows for both Destroyer and different probes.
Black lightning was an extremely low showing (like the gas station for Superman). So much of a low showing that it should be considered PIS (or SMvFL). Mjolnir getting sliced by plain hand beams should be considered PIS looking at other instances of the hand beams and also the supposedly more powerful Disintegration beam.
TBF, Aegis Armor definitely is an exception which cant be used to gauge normal probe's powers
The Aegis Armor was meant to grow to become an Imperiex-level entity. It isnt merely a part of Imperiex powers/probes
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OK?My point was that it wasn't 'just' a probe shell. So saying the Omega Effect was no-sold by it doesn't automatically = a standard probe being able to no-sell it.
Darkseid said, "The Imperiex drone's shell repelled even my Omega Effect!!" Which looks to me it wasn't the Apokolipsian technology being a factor.
Also(not about the Omega Effect) those Probes were durable enough they contained energy that when discharged, fatally injured Hippolyta(who I believe is on par with Wonder Woman) in armor AND wearing the Gauntlet of Atlas(although I can't remember if it was one Probe that exploded or both she fought), and nearly killed WW too while seemingly under the same circumstances (certainly the armor, not sure on Gauntlet).
Oh it does, for sure. But I like using their best showings. My main point was that energy attacks HAVE affected the probes in the past.
Is it something that the Destroyer on a good or best day can replicate? Yes, imo. Slicing Mjolnir with an energy attack isn't something say, Human Torch could do - it's still damn impressive.