Destroyer vs Imperiex Probe

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well ,again: my argument is that Abhi is accepting that the nuclear tank was amped, based on flimsier evidence than what is being presented for the Aegis.

I mean, what evidence did he present that the tank was amped? He posted a scan of Ferris Aircraft talking about their planes. That's it.

Again: I agree that the tanks were amped. BUT, based on a similar logic, I also say that the Aegis was an amped probe shell.

Though from my point of view I would say tanks example either is a low showing for probes or they were amped

And flip side, Entropy Aegis no sold omega beams also can be a high end showing for probes or can be argued EA was different from normal probes based on what logic you want to use here

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because I had already alluded to the same points you made - see my post about 'normal' nuclear tanks (because obv we don't have RL nuke tanks, lol). But 'amped' relative to comic book tanks, I guess would be the point.

It wasn't just a paint job, as my post (which you glossed over) said. Lulzworthy.

It was much smaller, has a different helmet, neck, hell, it even has abs, lol. It is completely different. And again, you can see a parademon welding it in the background of the scan I posted. Unless you can't see it?

And like I said, no issue with using other showings - my point since page 1, since you first brought it up, is that the Aegis =/= a normal standard Imperiex probe. Yet you are attempting to die on this hill, when in the same breath arguing that the B13 tech amped the tank. I agree with the latter point (the tank was amped), but I also say DS amped the probe to make the Aegis.

Stop talking nonsense, I'm not carver.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not arguing that. Just pointed out appearance design not always reflects to power levels

Though from my point of view I would say tanks example either is a low showing for probes or they were amped

And flip side, Entropy Aegis no sold omega beams also can be a high end showing for probes or can be argued EA was different from normal probes based on what logic you want to use here

I mean it was flat out stated to be a little bit of Imperiex and Steel had to learn entropic power control.

Just like the rest of the probes. There's literally no evidence that the Apokolips tech changed anything other than turning the probe against Imperiex.

So still nothing on the tanks?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah and Mcguiness Superman was different from Schultz Superman because Mcguiness drew Superman like the Hulk.

Stop talking nonsense, I'm not carver.

What nonsense? Like I said, why don't you tell us who wins this thread lol

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So still nothing on the tanks?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What nonsense? Like I said, why don't you tell us who wins this thread lol

Its literally heads I win, tails you lose kind of nonsense.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who wins?

Who is controlling the Destroyer?

User matters a lot, as Mangog confirmed recently.

Just my opinion, but I believe that the Aegis was far more powerful than those probes.

Double post.

Originally posted by Stoic
Just my opinion, but I believe that the Aegis was far more powerful than those probes.

Of course it is - the Aegis absorbs and nullifies all energies - something that a probe doesn't do:

(With thanks to Phildo).

So using its performance against energy attacks isn't that useful when talking about a normal probe.

Probe wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Of course it is - the Aegis absorbs and nullifies all energies - something that a probe doesn't do:

(With thanks to Phildo).

So using its performance against energy attacks isn't that useful when talking about a normal probe.

So yeah, EA is pretty OP and should be beyond normal probes based on feats

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Who is controlling the Destroyer?

User matters a lot, as Mangog confirmed recently.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What nonsense? Like I said, why don't you tell us who wins this thread lol

So what I pointed out earlier is ignored just like a lot of things(by qwerty too)? Gotcha.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So what I pointed out earlier is ignored just like a lot of things(by qwerty too)? Gotcha.

Like what

If we are talking about low showings, how about Destroyer almost dying compared to a totally depowered Odin tanking Zelia's blasts.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was no difference, Apokolips tech was used to turn the probe against Imperiex, it was using the power of Imperiex only. Even the Quintessence were surprised to see Steel using power of Imperiex.

I mean it was flat out stated to be a little bit of Imperiex and Steel had to learn entropic power control.

Just like the rest of the probes. There's literally no evidence that the Apokolips tech changed anything other than turning the probe against Imperiex.

I noticed you forgot to post the preceding page, where they explicitly state the Aegis absorbs and nullifies all energy. Curious, that. I am sure the probes did the same, correct?

Anyway, a better res scan than Phil's:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I noticed you forgot to post the preceding page, where they explicitly state the Aegis absorbs and nullifies all energy. Curious, that. I am sure the probes did the same, correct?

Anyway, a better res scan than Phil's:

The Aegis was a piece of Imperiex, it used entropic power like the probes did. You still have to prove the Apokolips tech made it more powerful or different.

Geez, Can we just view it as a high showing for probes and the tanks example just a low showing for probes

And per forum rules( Full Capacity, The "No PIS" Rule etc) , We'll ignore low showings.

This will make things much easier