Marvel characters who could defeat Dr. Manhattan?

Well, The Hands pretty much oneshotted Perpetua + her armies AND erected the Source Wall with a single “blast of energy” from across the Omniverse, in the form of the cosmic raptor. So the Hands as a group are >>>> Perpetua.

Also, Snyder in an interview states that Perpetua is weaker than the Hands we see in Death Metal individually, because they had followed their function and achieved an “ascended” state as a result, while Perpetua did not.

I thought you were talking the Hands as individuality....By this case, I dont see any on panel proof supporting a memeber in the Hands would decisively >>>>Perpetua(IOW, a member of the Hands has the powers that dwarf Perpetua by an order of magnitude)

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why do we need that when Manhattan destroyed and recreated everything with a wave of his hands?

he only did that to the metaverse which is the main dc prime earth continuity, not the multiverse

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Unless you start ignoring scaling, statements, and the preponderance of evidence as being the optimal way to comparing characters, there really is.

Originally posted by MrMind
he only did that to the metaverse which is the main dc prime earth continuity, not the multiverse

Maybe the One-Above-All, but that fool was effectively defeated by Thanos at one point. Stupid writing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe the One-Above-All, but that fool was effectively defeated by Thanos at one point. Stupid writing.

Well, not exactly defeated but out of TOAA's jurisdiction or some shit.

It's not stupid writing per se, it's just standard "Thanos writing", to be honest - Starlin always found a way to wank Thanos, private or public, no matter what.

Without Starlin, Thanos is just another Rhino waiting to get his ass whooped.

Thanos ended up "absorbing" the cosmics in that story line, no?

I consider that Thanos wanking to be bad writing.

Originally posted by MrMind
it's pointless to even compare current marvel to dc as far as cosmic and abstract concerned

they are not on the same level anymore

dc is fully going crazy with their world building at this moment

marvel is focused more on storytelling at the moment

things could change in the future though

I highly doubt Marvel will ever catch up.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Without Starlin, Thanos is just another Rhino waiting to get his ass whooped.

While I think there”s really not much room for debate regarding the Marvel top tier cosmics vs DC’s absolute top tier cosmics such as GEB, Lucifer, Michael, the Source, The Hands, etc, I think there”s room to debate regarding Marvel top tier cosmics vs characters such as Mxy, the Brothers Three, Manhattan, Perpetua etc.

Mxy IS considered DC's absolute top tier, along with A, Ultimator, etc...

While Mxy is very high tier, he is no longer the absolute top tier of the verse.

The Source/Light, the Great Darkness, The Hands, Manhattan, Perpetua, Darkest Knight, and arguably TEH/Mandrakk/Thought Robot are above Mxy (some of them by orders of magnitude).

Originally posted by Robtard
Thanos ended up "absorbing" the cosmics in that story line, no?

With the Astral Regulator.

It appeared so...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e17221913f1a4c0c497bc5044a588f8

Unless TOAA played with him same as Beyonder played with Doom...

Originally posted by Robtard
I consider that Thanos wanking to be bad writing.

Well, then Thanos has no good stories 😂

His best material happened under Starlin's pen... and it's always the same:

1) There must be "Infinity" in the title.

2) Thanos must outsmart and beat everyone, becoming the supreme power in the universe, ideally.

3) Only Thanos can beat Thanos.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
While Mxy is very high tier, he is no longer the absolute top tier of the verse.

The Source/Light, the Great Darkness, The Hands, Manhattan, Perpetua, Darkest Knight, and arguably TEH/Mandrakk/Thought Robot are above Mxy (some of them by orders of magnitude).

I wouldn't put Perpetua or Mandrakk above Mxy, IMO.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He ended everything. Multiverse started again with the metaverse.

that was no where stated

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
While I think there”s really not much room for debate regarding the Marvel top tier cosmics vs DC’s absolute top tier cosmics such as GEB, Lucifer, Michael, the Source, The Hands, etc, I think there”s room to debate regarding Marvel top tier cosmics vs characters such as Mxy, the Brothers Three, Manhattan, Perpetua etc.

maybe pre secret wars marvel, but hickman has successfully watered down marvel cosmic hirerchy. LT isn't worth shit

if we go by what ewing and starlin has done, then yes, Regulator Thanos, The One Below All and Molecule Man are up there

Originally posted by MrMind
that was no where stated

Originally posted by MrMind
maybe pre secret wars marvel, but hickman has successfully watered down marvel cosmic hirerchy. LT isn't worth shit

if we go by what ewing and starlin has done, then yes, Regulator Thanos, The One Below All and Molecule Man are up there

Thanos with the regulators screwed up the system which made TOAA fallible and no longer perfect. If Thanos didn’t screw up the system I don’t think he would have matched up with TOAA.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I wouldn't put Perpetua or Mandrakk above Mxy, IMO.

Mandrakk is definitely above but there is that weird little retcon

For all its faults, and there are many, the latest issue definitely cemented the Morrison cosmology and, if anything, made the characters there even more powerful, given how it expanded that cosmology and recontextualized what came after. Mandrakk is now not only the son of the Light but also the the Darkness [i.e. through which it reveals itself and the first being ever corrupted] -- and he is defined as the Absolute Enemy [again] whose purpose is to bring the initial Darkness.

What I don't like is how it considers every Mandrakk as Dax Novu [or an incarnation of him], even Rox Ogama, but it is what it is.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I wouldn't put Perpetua or Mandrakk above Mxy, IMO.

Perpetua is a peer of Manhattan, arguably > Manhattan at her peak, who in turn scales significantly above Mxy. Furthermore, Perpetua has numerous ludicrous feats while in weakened/diminished states that measure up to pretty much any Mxy feat.

Mandrakk is a peer of Thought Robot and an avatar of the Great Darkness. I think he has a pretty good claim to being > Mxy.