Marvel characters who could defeat Dr. Manhattan?

Started by DarkSaint8510 pages
Originally posted by lawest9
Who or what is GEB?

Great Evil Beast. Last really seen with Swamp Thing, now shown to be the ultimate evil who has been pulling the strings behind every single crisis etc in DC.

Just like Perpetua did…

Such is the life of endless events. You're only relevant until the next big bad.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Such is the life of endless events. You're only relevant until the next big bad.
👆 Never a truer word, which is why comic battle boards can never ever be taken seriously.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Great Evil Beast. Last really seen with Swamp Thing, now shown to be the ultimate evil who has been pulling the strings behind every single crisis etc in DC.
Thanks.

Does anyone recall whether or not Og Beyonder was able, or unable to manipulate time? The Beyonder has a couple of things going for him, he has quite a bit more panel time with feats than Dr. M. Owen may at one time or the other been peers to Dr. M as well.

I can't see him defeating TOAA on Marvel soil. Neutral soil may be another matter though so, sure although he probably would defeat TOAA on neutral ground, he wouldn't be able to do so within TOAA's realm (Marvel space), which is technically it's source of power. I mean, TOAA and other universal constants adhere to firm laws, or rules. We've seen power shifts occur in Marvel when functional reality is altered, or tampered with. So, for all we know, TOAA may be powerless in neutral space.

The Ivory Kings did it, as did Thanos (which was stated to be non canon). Whatever, lol.

Manhattan would be on the level of a Cube being imo, which should be below any Marvel character that posseses total authority over reality.

Beyonder did pluck Dr Doom out of the time stream for the original Secret Wars, and time traveled in Secret Wars II in a FF comic, so there's that.
How much understanding he had of any of it, who knows?

Dr.Manhattan was near beyonders power

not near, he surpassed it

i dont see beyonder even standing up to what perpetua has done

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Dr.Manhattan was near beyonders power
far past it.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
far past it.

I mean pre retcon

Originally posted by Philosophía
For all its faults, and there are many, the latest issue definitely cemented the Morrison cosmology and, if anything, made the characters there even more powerful, given how it expanded that cosmology and recontextualized what came after. Mandrakk is now not only the son of the Light but also the the Darkness [i.e. through which it reveals itself and the first being ever corrupted] -- and he is defined as the Absolute Enemy [again] whose purpose is to bring the initial Darkness.

What I don't like is how it considers every Mandrakk as Dax Novu [or an incarnation of him], even Rox Ogama, but it is what it is.

That was something that was added in the Final Crisis "New Edition" trade that had all the added extra panels not found in the original issues. One it snuck in there was Nix Uotan telling Rox Ogama/Mandrakk that he killed his mother, which was actually Dax Novu in Superman Beyond.

So instead of being different versions of the character where one takes up the mantle after the other is defeated as he gives into being a vampiric monitor, many new readers suddenly believe Mandrakk being some kind of bodyhopping Brainiac type of entity.

The problem arises in Unexpected 7, where we see Dax Novu/Mandrakk again, he mentions being tossed down by Superman and landing in the Dark Multiverse at the feet of Barbatos, which coincides albeit a retcon of being erased in the Overvoid, with the original idea that it's two different people.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I mean pre retcon
also who i'm talking about.

Beyonder certainly has better feats than Manhattan

Manhattan only got implied power that matches and surpass

Originally posted by MrMind
Beyonder certainly has better feats than Manhattan
like what?

Originally posted by MrMind
Beyonder certainly has better feats than Manhattan

Manhattan only got implied power that matches and surpass


I mean you can’t really go past “remake the entire multi universe” and be superior than Mxy

After that you’re just getting into the “infinite +1”

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I mean you can’t really go past “remake the entire multi universe” and be superior than Mxy

After that you’re just getting into the “infinite +1”

isn't that what comic book is, just bunch of characters who can destroy and remake multiverses

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
like what?

all the statements of him really

for example, like this

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/12/125547/3344481-beyonder%27s%20omnipotence.jpg

Manhattan's only feat is having a small penis.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Manhattan's only feat is having a small penis.

he's a grower not a shower like me