Marvel characters who could defeat Dr. Manhattan?

Started by MrMind10 pages
Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you even read bro

no, show scans if you are so sure

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
With the Astral Regulator.

It appeared so...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e17221913f1a4c0c497bc5044a588f8

Unless TOAA played with him same as Beyonder played with Doom...

Well, then Thanos has no good stories 😂

His best material happened under Starlin's pen... and it's always the same:

1) There must be "Infinity" in the title.

2) Thanos must outsmart and beat everyone, becoming the supreme power in the universe, ideally.

3) Only Thanos can beat Thanos.

Could be he/it did, as TOAA would have known what was going to happen before it happened.

Yeah, I'm not a huge Thanos fan, the writing is so much of the same.

LoL, yup

Originally posted by Robtard
Could be he/it did, as TOAA would have known what was going to happen before it happened.

Yeah, I'm not a huge Thanos fan, the writing is so much of the same.

LoL, yup

Thanos looks good by making everyone else dumb.

In the Heart of the Universe story, Doctor Doom was stupid enough to use a time machine on a time traveling abstract level being. Who of course was waiting in ambush, the obvious thing. Of course Thanos was the one to outwit him.

@Phil,

I”m pretty sure “the absolute enemy” is referring to GEB, as Darkseid later refers to GEB as the “absolute enemy of existence” within the comic. Mandrakk is an avatar/manifestation of the GEB, yes, but not sure that necessarily raises his standing/makes him look better (Barbatos is also stated to be an “avatar” of the Great Darkness).

It seems cemented that TEH should be > all of the major crisis villains sans perhaps Perpetua/DK, though, given that he is the literal right hand of the GEB.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
With the Astral Regulator.

It appeared so...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e17221913f1a4c0c497bc5044a588f8

Unless TOAA played with him same as Beyonder played with Doom...

Well, then Thanos has no good stories 😂

His best material happened under Starlin's pen... and it's always the same:

1) There must be "Infinity" in the title.

2) Thanos must outsmart and beat everyone, becoming the supreme power in the universe, ideally.

3) Only Thanos can beat Thanos.

Starlin did a lot of acid. He admitted to it in Star Reach, by having his Jim Starlin character drop acid in an elevator.

Originally posted by cdtm
Starlin did a lot of acid. He admitted to it in Star Reach, by having his Jim Starlin character drop acid in an elevator.

Grant Morrison took just the right amount of acid; Jim Starlin took too much acid.

And Moore took enough to kill a country.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Moore took enough to kill a country.

Nah, that”s Al Ewing.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
@Phil,

I”m pretty sure “the absolute enemy” is referring to GEB, as Darkseid later refers to GEB as the “absolute enemy of existence” within the comic. Mandrakk is an avatar/manifestation of the GEB, yes, but not sure that necessarily raises his standing/makes him look better (Barbatos is also stated to be an “avatar” of the Great Darkness).

It seems cemented that TEH should be > all of the major crisis villains sans perhaps Perpetua/DK, though, given that he is the literal right hand of the GEB.

It's referring to Mandrakk, because it directly refers to the heroes being summoned to protect it from the Absolute Enemy - as they face Mandrakk, which is what happened in FC, and what's also being depicted here:

Which is obviously also lifted fron Final Crisis: SB, as are many narrations in this issue, where Mandrakk was defined as the same:

"To protect all existence against the Ultimate Enemy"

By being the first born son of the Light and corrupted by Darkness, Mandrakk became the consumer of story itself, thus the absolute enemy of existence [story].

There's also a difference between Mandrakk and an avatar. Avatars are just beings that have apparead before Final Crisis and have weakened the light -- like SBP, Anti-Life Entity, Extant -- and after Final Crisis like Barbatos:

But Mandrakk is specifically GEB revealing itself, as seen above.

Him being GEB revealing himself makes sense, given they have the same purpose:

He essentially is the GEB under the guise of the son of the Light.

One thing I liked about the issue, despite "GEB behind everything" being a shit plot device -- is that it confirmed the birth of the DC Multiverse [unless further information comes out] has nothing to do with Perpetua, Synnar or whatever -- they're just stories, one out of many, of how everything was created.

The DC Multiverse is born out of the same thing that drives all stories -- conflict. Conflict between the light and darkness:

This is very much in line with Morrison's writing, which put an emphasis on dualities:

And the fact that the Multiverse --- story, has no designer. It has emergent qualities:

And it emerged out of the conflict between Light/Dark. The driving force of all stories.

Which is quite nice, imo.

I hope the writer didn't land on this by mistake -- but I'd bet he did, and he'll eventually devolve it all into "pew pew" at cosmic level.

Originally posted by Philosophía
One thing I liked about the issue, despite "GEB behind everything" being a shit plot device -- is that it confirmed the birth of the DC Multiverse [unless further information comes out] has nothing to do with Perpetua, Synnar or whatever -- they're just stories, one out of many, of how everything was created.

The DC Multiverse is born out of the same thing that drives all stories -- conflict. Conflict between the light and darkness:

This is very much in line with Morrison's writing, which put an emphasis on dualities:

And the fact that the Multiverse --- story, has no designer. It has emergent qualities:

And it emerged out of the conflict between Light/Dark. The driving force of all stories.

Which is quite nice, imo.

I hope the writer didn't land on this by mistake -- but I'd bet he did, and he'll eventually devolve it all into "pew pew" at cosmic level.

duality is the root of all philosophies

there is no good without evil, no devil without god

heaven and hell are connected

my ex was a anti-christ, I told her essentially she is christian

Originally posted by Diesldude
I don’t think Thanos with the regulators is > TOAA in a perfect working system.

Thanos with the regulators screwed up the system which made TOAA fallible and no longer perfect. If Thanos didn’t screw up the system I don’t think he would have matched up with TOAA.

still regulator thanos was effecting the entire marvel and broke the 4th wall into the reader's reality

Originally posted by MrMind
no, show scans if you are so sure

I already did. Manhattan directly says everything ends.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I already did. Manhattan directly says everything ends.

that's not clear enough, the metaverse is the main universe when it rebooted if it has a cascading effect on the other universes we have no idea. because it wasn't shown.

the phrase like multiverse, omniverse were no where to be stated

Everything means everything, not just metaverse. The multiverse restarted again with the metaverse first and then the rest.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Everything means everything, not just metaverse. The multiverse restarted again with the metaverse first and then the rest.

no

everything has been used so frequently in comics it's not even funny, it's way too vague. you need supporting evidence that everything means multiverse in this case.

Originally posted by MrMind
no

everything has been used so frequently in comics it's not even funny, it's way too vague. you need supporting evidence that everything means multiverse in this case.


Death Metal made it clear Manhattan tried to correct the entire multiverse, not just one reality.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Death Metal made it clear Manhattan tried to correct the entire multiverse, not just one reality.

Scan?

Who or what is GEB?

lawest forever stuck in 12 yrs old