Can Marvels Mightiest take down WF?

And now that I have access to my PC, I will lay my argument out.

From the very start, we already knew Betty - in her unamped, normal state, was a match for Hulk durability-wise:

Bear this in mind as we read on.

It was established that the Wishing Well would take a circuitous route to give you exactly what you actually want, but there would be consequences:

Now, Hulk wanted there to be no innocents around - the Well could have given him a barren world, but instead, it gave him a world full of guilty criminals to fight:

No matter. The Hulk loved it either way. As he himself says:

Look at that smile. He is loving it.

Confirmed by the Hulk himself, that it was time to fight and die (still with that shit-eating grin on his face):

And confirmed again by Strange. No one was going to survive - and that was the end that the Hulk wanted:

As he was surrounded by guilty criminals, he wanted them all to die, be resurrected, and die again. Over and over and over again. As a side-effect, Hulk too would die and be resurrected - because ArmCheddon wished that the Hulk would also suffer the same fate:

In short, the World breaking feat wasn't due to pure strength, but was due to Hulk wishing that everyone with him would die as he fought them, because they were all monsters, trapped together. The Wishing Well granted this wish, by having the entire realm be destroyed every time he fought.

Sure, there is *some* strength involved. Hulk still cut loose. My argument is that it could have been Alfred, completely cutting loose with his old-man strength, fighting a planet full of Martha Wayne corpses, and the end result would have been the same - planetary destruction.

Now, what happens when they get to Earth? Safe old Earth, filled with kittens and women and children and that sort of thing?

Remember, that Betty, without the Wishing Well amp, was already on the level of Hulk. Now she got amped by the Wishing Well. THEN she got hit by FFF's missiles (note her and WBH's size):
https://i.postimg.cc/HLsc6J1R/RCO017-1469401173.jpg

She grows to massive proportions, and casually stomps FFF (along with WBH):
https://i.postimg.cc/vZGcm1TT/RCO018-1469401173.jpg

A-bomb and She-Hulk were also amped - remember, they augmented the energy:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4WDC223/RCO015-1469401173.jpg

So we now have four gigantic Hulk beings duking it out on Earth, not holding back, completely insane with power:
https://i.postimg.cc/vZy66qqQ/RCO020-1469401173.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1tVzdwCC/RCO019-1469401173.jpg

Yet, not even a pickup truck nearby was harmed (I've circled how close Strange was to the fight, and the truck itself):

Of course, this could well just be the suspension of belief that EndlessMike was talking about. But the comic was clear in that one didn't need to articulate the wish out loud, verbally, for it to happen - Wendigo and Cho made wishes without saying them, for example. In other words, we don't need Hulk actually saying the words for it to have been a wish.

In short, the Hulk only had the power to destroy a world in the Dark Dimension, because the Well granted him the power to do so when there were no innocents around. Once he (and 3 others!) were on Earth, a planet filled with innocents, he (and the other 3) didn't destroy Earth.

All this ignores the whole 'gravity is wonky in the DD' argument.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well yeah, but typically by people like Dr. Strange, from what I have seen.

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Nice post DS. Of course all completely obvious if Carver actually read the story. 👆

I wasn't comparing Hulk with Superman's feats, but rather talking about the feat in isolation. As for Deadpool there, it doesn't look like there are any indications of damage aside from the blood on the sword, which is odd because I was under the impression that those things didn't even have blood. But I could be wrong about that detail of their physiology.

Quite a few lesser characters have damaged them.

Deadpool, Blade, Spitfire, BP, Captain Midland, etc.

Captain Midland was the guy from Nextwave, right? He was literally smashing them in half, iirc.

Of course, bytheby as differing writers would have differing interpretations. Some writers have Batman as Batgod, others have him more grounded, for example.

I guess they are jobbers when outside of a Dr. Strange story, for the most part then.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I wasn't comparing Hulk with Superman's feats, but rather talking about the feat in isolation. As for Deadpool there, it doesn't look like there are any indications of damage aside from the blood on the sword, which is odd because I was under the impression that those things didn't even have blood. But I could be wrong about that detail of their physiology.

Both Superman and Hulk's feats are planetary to say the least, but Carver and other well known trolls made many shit arguments back in the days( aside those argument I mentioned, they also made argument that the planet Superman shattered was weakened due to Superman's previous jumps as if planets had healthbar or something etc)

Thus, everyone now is trying to shit on Carver. The Dark Dimension argument I don't think you need to take it seriously that was what I was trying to say

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And now that I have access to my PC, I will lay my argument out.

From the very start, we already knew Betty - in her unamped, normal state, was a match for Hulk durability-wise:

Bear this in mind as we read on.

It was established that the Wishing Well would take a circuitous route to give you [b]exactly what you actually want, but there would be consequences:

Now, Hulk wanted there to be no innocents around - the Well could have given him a barren world, but instead, it gave him a world full of guilty criminals to fight:

No matter. The Hulk loved it either way. As he himself says:

Look at that smile. He is loving it.

Confirmed by the Hulk himself, that it was time to fight and die (still with that shit-eating grin on his face):

And confirmed again by Strange. No one was going to survive - and that was the end that the Hulk wanted:

As he was surrounded by guilty criminals, he wanted them all to die, be resurrected, and die again. Over and over and over again. As a side-effect, Hulk too would die and be resurrected - because ArmCheddon wished that the Hulk would also suffer the same fate:

In short, the World breaking feat wasn't due to pure strength, but was due to Hulk wishing that everyone with him would die as he fought them, because they were all monsters, trapped together. The Wishing Well granted this wish, by having the entire realm be destroyed every time he fought.

Sure, there is *some* strength involved. Hulk still cut loose. My argument is that it could have been Alfred, completely cutting loose with his old-man strength, fighting a planet full of Martha Wayne corpses, and the end result would have been the same - planetary destruction.

Now, what happens when they get to Earth? Safe old Earth, filled with kittens and women and children and that sort of thing?

Remember, that Betty, without the Wishing Well amp, was already on the level of Hulk. Now she got amped by the Wishing Well. THEN she got hit by FFF's missiles (note her and WBH's size):
https://i.postimg.cc/HLsc6J1R/RCO017-1469401173.jpg

She grows to massive proportions, and casually stomps FFF (along with WBH):
https://i.postimg.cc/vZGcm1TT/RCO018-1469401173.jpg

A-bomb and She-Hulk were also amped - remember, they augmented the energy:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4WDC223/RCO015-1469401173.jpg

So we now have four gigantic Hulk beings duking it out on Earth, not holding back, completely insane with power:
https://i.postimg.cc/vZy66qqQ/RCO020-1469401173.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1tVzdwCC/RCO019-1469401173.jpg

Yet, not even a pickup truck nearby was harmed (I've circled how close Strange was to the fight, and the truck itself):

Of course, this could well just be the suspension of belief that EndlessMike was talking about. But the comic was clear in that one didn't need to articulate the wish out loud, verbally, for it to happen - Wendigo and Cho made wishes without saying them, for example. In other words, we don't need Hulk actually saying the words for it to have been a wish.

In short, the Hulk only had the power to destroy a world in the Dark Dimension, because the Well granted him the power to do so when there were no innocents around. Once he (and 3 others!) were on Earth, a planet filled with innocents, he (and the other 3) didn't destroy Earth.

All this ignores the whole 'gravity is wonky in the DD' argument. [/B]

He ain't shit

Where did Hulk say he wish to die and what does the planet being destroyed by him have to do with him wanting to die? What does the planet have to do with any of his wishes? What part of his wish said "I want to die by a planet explosion and come back to life and die by the planet explosion again". He asked for them to come back from the deaths he caused but nothing was ever stated him wishing they would die. He asked for everyone to be transported from the planet except fing fang foom. How is he wishing them all to die but at the same time saving them?

Here he's asking Strange to get everyone off of the planet except Fing Fang Foom.

https://ibb.co/RQT6mRJ

So you're saying he wants everyone to die while saving them at the same time?. He also mentions his wish here is for everyone to be resurrected.

Originally posted by carver9
Where did Hulk say he wish to die and what does the planet being destroyed by him have to do with him wanting to die? What does the planet have to do with any of his wishes? What part of his wish said "I want to die by a planet explosion and come back to life and die by the planet explosion again". He asked for them to come back from the deaths he caused but nothing was ever stated him wishing they would die. He asked for everyone to be transported from the planet except fing fang foom. How is he wishing them all to die but at the same time saving them?

Read my post. I showed clearly that the Wishing Well grants wishes in the most roundabout way possible. Cho wished for help - it brought all the villains to Vegas, for example.

His wish, as I clearly showed, and as confirmed by Hulk himself and Strange, was for everyone to die. That was the end he wanted.

He then saved two people - Cho and Di Cosimo. Because they weren't monsters. FFF was, though.

Originally posted by carver9
Here he's asking Strange to get everyone off of the planet except Fing Fang Foom.

https://ibb.co/RQT6mRJ

So you're saying he wants everyone to die while saving them at the same time?. He also mentions his wish here is for everyone to be resurrected.

Also, you said that Hulk wish was for them to die and keep coming back. Why did they not die here?

https://i.postimg.cc/1tVzdwCC/RCO019-1469401173.jpg

If their wish was to keep dying and coming back, should they not have died here as well?

Originally posted by carver9
Also, you said that Hulk wish was for them to die and keep coming back. Why did they not die here?

https://i.postimg.cc/1tVzdwCC/RCO019-1469401173.jpg

If their wish was to keep dying and coming back, should they not have died here as well?

They're not in the Dark Dimension, lmao. The wish is specific to the DD.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Read my post. I showed clearly that the Wishing Well grants wishes in the most roundabout way possible. Cho wished for help - it brought all the villains to Vegas, for example.

His wish, as I clearly showed, and as confirmed by Hulk himself and Strange, was for everyone to die. That was the end he wanted.

He then saved two people - Cho and Di Cosimo. Because they weren't monsters. FFF was, though.

He's not asking for everyone, lmao. He's only asking for Di Cosimo and Cho to be taken off, lmao. Read the first speech bubble.

His wish is stated right there on panel. To come back to life. He never wished for them to die. It's literally right there on panel. "They won't die. The magic here resurrect people to fight again and again".

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They're not in the Dark Dimension, lmao. The wish is specific to the DD.

Where was it said the wish was specifically for the DD? Show me.

Originally posted by carver9
Here he's asking Strange to get everyone off of the planet except Fing Fang Foom.

Fin, Carver.

Fin. Fang. Foom.

Originally posted by Smurph
Fin, Carver.

[b]Fin. Fang. Foom. [/B]

Lmao, did that irritate you?

Originally posted by carver9
Lmao, did that irritate you?

It would make it harder for people to say you can’t read if you did actually read.