Most powerful physical feat

Originally posted by Astner
There's no allusion to the existence of another monkey in Limbo writing the Infinite Book.

In your head-canon there might be a second monkey, but I'm only interested in offical canon.

Never-mind then.

Neither is there proof that it's the same. Unless you have canonical proof it was? I eagerly await your response.

Originally posted by Astner
Why would requiring that the pages have to be in order ill-justified? The fact that there's a final chapter pressuposes an order.

Either way, there can't exist an sequential final page if the number of pages are truly infinite. Of course we know this not to be the case by the fact that the monkey grasped his final script in his hand as he died.

But we know what that final script as typed by that monkey said:

And we know comics have been continuing since Animal Man #25, since that panel, so this monkey's final typed page isn't final for DC, only for that specific monkey.

I mean, Animal Man #25 doesn't even mention the monkey writes books with every story in it - just Shakespeare and Animal Man comics, if that. Unless you inject your own words into the comic, that is.

Originally posted by Astner
As for the physical/material arguement, the only things in Limbo that were physical in Animal Man was Animal Man (because he wasn't part of Limbo) and I assume the same argument would hold in Superman Beyond.

Also not true.

The rusty gate makes noise, Animal Man is able to physically grasp and pull it, the monkey's typewriter makes clicky clacky noises, there are winds and blizzards, and the monkey's fingers can be physically broken.

Assuming we're saying they're the same as in Superman Beyond, that is. Although I do like how we're moving from the initial 'theres nothing material in Limbo' to 'only things that don't originate in Limbo are material'😉.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But we know what that final script as typed by that monkey said:

And we know comics have been continuing since Animal Man #25, since that panel, so this monkey's final typed page isn't final for DC, only for that specific monkey.

I mean, Animal Man #25 doesn't even mention the monkey writes books with every story in it - just Shakespeare and Animal Man comics, if that. Unless you inject your own words into the comic, that is.

That said, there's still the problem of the book having a final chapter and a final page according to Ultraman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also not true.

The rusty gate makes noise, Animal Man is able to physically grasp and pull it, the monkey's typewriter makes clicky clacky noises, there are winds and blizzards, and the monkey's fingers can be physically broken.

Assuming we're saying they're the same as in Superman Beyond, that is. Although I do like how we're moving from the initial 'theres nothing material in Limbo' to 'only things that don't originate in Limbo are material'😉.

Even Morrison's Multiverse Map alludes to Limbo having obscure properties.

And I think there was something recent with Limbo being a part of Hypertime.

Originally posted by Astner

- Flashpoint Beyond #0

I do recall Marryman noticing that Animal Man wasn't part of Limbo, but like I said I'll get back to you on that.

Originally posted by Astner
I forgot about this. At face value this looks like a good counterpoint, if nothing else it's worth addressing. I'll get back to you after I've reread the issue whenever I have the time.

That said, there's still the problem of the book having a final chapter and a final page according to Ultraman.

Why would the existence of noise imply that Limbo is a space of conventional matter?

Even Morrison's Multiverse Map alludes to Limbo having obscure properties.

And I think there was something recent with Limbo being a part of Hypertime.

I do recall Marryman noticing that Animal Man wasn't part of Limbo, but like I said I'll get back to you on that.

Ok.

Also, I was referring to the gates being so rusty they grate against each other, physically rubbing, causing a reeenk noise.

Same with the typewriter. Moreover, it shows air particles are present to carry noise, at the very least

You also see Buddy physically holding and pulling a gate. That's..... pretty material.

Your original point was that only Animal Man was physical. But for sound to be created, to transmit (AMONGST other things, like an actual gate to hold and pull, not to mention fingers to break like glass), means it's.....quite physical.

It's weird how you had all these scans cropped and ready, but didn't even get these points. Did someone just PM you scans and arguments to use?

A lot of things going against this showing.

Monkey died before finishing the book.
Limbo isn't a physical plane of existence.
The book was already floating before Superman and Captain Marvel grabbed it.
Ultraman admitting on panel he read the entire book till the last page.

Originally posted by carver9
A lot of things going against this showing.

Monkey died before finishing the book.

Animal Man #25's monkey didn't even write the Infinite Book. Or are you arguing that the entirety of DC ended with Animal Man #25, lmao.

Limbo isn't a physical plane of existence.

The book was already floating before Superman and Captain Marvel grabbed it.

But...what does that have to do with anything?

Ultraman admitting on panel he read the entire book till the last page.

And:

His statement was either false, or wrong. Evil did not win, Mandrakk did not take over.

So if he is wrong about that, or it was false, unless you are implying he was lying when he said that evil wins?

Originally posted by Astner
Aside from general relativity and quantum field theory in curved spacetime, all of the fields you mentioned are done with ℝ-valued coordinates which are obviously homeomorphic to themselves, but they're also limited models when it comes to describing quantum spacetime, which is relevant here since we're dealing with small-scale displacements. The former are generically formulated with manifolds which are locally homeomorphic to ℝⁿ, but quantum field theory in curved spacetime can be quantized to address problems unsolvable in field spaces.

Other modern models like loop quantum gravity generically relies on quantized spacetime, and while string theory doesn't generically rely on it it can be (and often is) quantized.

There wouldn't be any particular need to try and explain the Book in terms of those hypothetical theories anyway, even if one of them happened to be an accepted model of reality of our universe. Plenty of comics characters such as Atom or Antman have miniaturized themselves to atomic and sub-atomic levels, and encountered stuff such as "billiard-ball-like atoms" or microverses or even some cyclical scales that loop back onto themselves. The small scales in comics just don't behave like our universe does. Heck, the fact that these ppl can shrink like that in the first place already severely violates our physics. The Book can too, it's comics.

Originally posted by Astner
It's not a matter of justification. Any assumption that results in a loss of generality puts it at a disadvantage as a theory.

What are you talking about? The choice is between a figurative and literal interpretation of infinity. One interpretation is simple the other one requires a myraid of conjectured excuses.

You can use the same mental gymnastics to justify that there are literally "infinite grains of sand on a beach" because the narration suggested that it was infinite, and when confronted with the reality that it's a small beach you can start defining the grains of sand underneath the visible grains of sand to be infiniteismal in size.

This has nothing to do with what I said. I'm not even sure why you decided to keep it after the edit.

Why would requiring that the pages have to be in order ill-justified? The fact that there's a final chapter pressuposes an order.

Either way, there can't exist an sequential final page if the number of pages are truly infinite. Of course we know this not to be the case by the fact that the monkey grasped his final script in his hand as he died.

As I have explicitly shown, it is certainly possible for the Book to have countably infinite number of pages and yet have a well-defined final page in its final page slot. Even if the spatial x-coordinate does not resemble |R it is easy to modify my map to account for that, so my approach IS general. The map can be many-to-one, after all.

Sorry I have been away for a bit.

Let me get to various posts in order:

This is kinda why you should read more comics. In that storyline, Mxy tells of how he's been infusing Superman with 6D energy - on top of watching over him as his guardian angel - for years.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that the 6D energy is what gives him infinite strength or whatever. I'm saying that there is precedence for a reality warping 5 D imp - the most powerful warper in DC, if not comics (I'll let others debate that) - literally giving energy to Superman, over the course of years.

Now if you need something to help you understand how Superman can do what he does, then you can use that.

I've heard 5d protection used as an argument for how he can resist the Omega Effect and other exotic powers, but I don't think that justifies literally infinite strength as a legit showing.

But yes, I have a feat. Wally is faster than sound, faster than light, faster than thought, faster than the Speed Force, lol.

Okay but that's a speed feat, I am looking for feats of physical strength/power. Maybe we can use that one if we make another thread like this for speed feats.

Superman punches his way out of Vandal's weaponized Hypertime never-ending time loop

I'm really curious about how this will be ranked

*snip*

That's really cool, as it's a callback to the Golden Age which I've been reading recently.

Anyway, from what I can understand here, it seems that Vandal Savage tried to send him back in time to a different timeline/section of hypertime, where he had his early Golden Age powers only, but still had his modern memory. Also, he had a vague memory of the Golden Age era (because all of DC's history had been reintegrated probably), but he considered that memory impossible and incongruent with the history he knows. He also says that the era he was sent to was an illusion (although I think that's not literal as it certainly seemed to be physically real). Then it looks like he went to the Silver Age, and then fought alternate versions of himself, and finally managed to break through time back to the current timeline. Changing into multiple different versions of himself as he returned also reminded me of his fight against Dominus way back. In the end he said that every timeline lead to his present... so it's hard to interpret. I'd definitely rank it below SBP's feat, since he didn't destroy those universes/timelines, though, just escaped from them.

As I have pointed out, as Darksaint has pointed out [repeatedly] -- you're missing the point here, if your criteria [new, because of course] is that the feat is too high to justify them struggling in other comics, by the same criteria, you'd have to ignore most of the feats from Flash, Superman, and various other comic book characters, infinite or not. You're drawing self-serving imaginary lines where you clutch your pearls and close your eyes for the validity of the feats because it contradicts your pre-conceived notion of the characters, and not only that -- but it defeats the purpose of your own thread, where you want the best showings, even outliers. As I said -- call them outliers, fine. I'd agree with you, of course. But stop putting your own biases in front to dismiss the capabilities of certain characters.

Like I said, I can remove the asterisks if you think they're too editorializing.

And you're still having the feats on the list, and still without any kind of asteriks? Expected, but still.

Well then, Mike..

If you think I accept it as a legitimate, non-outlier feat for the Hulk, I've already said that I don't.

So tell me Mike, how long does it take the speed of light to illuminate a galaxy? Thousands of years? How about a Solar System? How about a ray of light just from Earth to the sun? 8 minutes? That's a lot, compared to it. Just from Earth to our nearest planet, it is 3 minutes. And that is STILL a lot more than the sequence here.

And yet, the cosmos is illuminated in moments.

Seems a fair argument, except I recall a very similar feat where Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, and a few other characters created a combined blast that illuminated everything out to the far ends of Dormammu's Dark Dimension in moments, and the Dark Dimension was explicitly stated to be as large as the 616 universe. So we know that some funky dimensional physics are going on in many of Marvel's alternate dimensions. (Yes, you could use this same argument to claim that the feat itself is less impressive because of different physics, but I never said you couldn't).

@Parmaniac: What character is that holding the star?

So, where are all the planets and the stars?

There aren't any. Not every dimension has to have one. This one was just a dark void with floating rocks. That doesn't say anything about its size, though. The Quantum Zone is another dimension with no planets or stars, just energy, and it's at least as large as 616.

Its not even a planetary feat, you know why? Because there were no planets in the pocket dimension, just a few floating islands.

The dimension's contents have nothing to do with its size. It could have had only grains of sand in it but still been billions of light-years in diameter. Philosophia provided the only real argument against it size, that is the propagation speeds of light and sound, but as I pointed out, in various alternate dimensions in Marvel those can work oddly.

Here's my updated list (without asterisks!)

1. Ultraman lifts infinite book
2. TIE: Superman and Captain Marvel lift infinite book/Hulk and Ironclad shake infinite dimensions/Superman and Jaxon's fight releases enough energy to fix infinite timelines
3. Superboy Prime destroys more than 3 universes with a punch
4. Flashes racing releases enough energy to disturb the multiverse
5. Superman breaks through Hypertime back to his own timeline
6. Superman destroys Big-Bang-proof pyramid
7. Hulk reverses universe-destroying blast with a thunderclap
8. Hulk's punch lights up dark cosmos
9. Superman sneezes away solar system
10. Superman breaks star-moving chains
11. Superman moves giant star with his breath
12. Lobo pulls Pulsar Stargrave
13. [Don't recognize the character] holds a star in his hand
14. Superboy throws mini neutron star
15. Wonder Woman moves the sun
16. Hulk resists weight of a star
17. Hulk walks through Vector's blast
18. Superman bench presses weight of Earth for 5 days
19. Superman changes diamond into coal
20. Superman catches 2 ton weight

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I've heard 5d protection used as an argument for how he can resist the Omega Effect and other exotic powers, but I don't think that justifies literally infinite strength as a legit showing.

Okay but that's a speed feat, I am looking for feats of physical strength/power. Maybe we can use that one if we make another thread like this for speed feats.

Any kind of physical feats are allowed

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I don't recall anyone saying the Flash had literally infinite speed though (unless you count abusing time travel).

My main reason for that scan, was to show that a lot has happened in the last 8 years.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Like I said, I can remove the asterisks if you think they're too editorializing.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
If you think I accept it as a legitimate, non-outlier feat for the Hulk, I've already said that I don't.

Originally posted by Endless Mike

Seems a fair argument, except I recall a very similar feat where Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, and a few other characters created a combined blast that illuminated everything out to the far ends of Dormammu's Dark Dimension in moments, and the Dark Dimension was explicitly stated to be as large as the 616 universe. So we know that some funky dimensional physics are going on in many of Marvel's alternate dimensions. (Yes, you could use this same argument to claim that the feat itself is less impressive because of different physics, but I never said you couldn't).

There aren't any. Not every dimension has to have one. This one was just a dark void with floating rocks. That doesn't say anything about its size, though. The Quantum Zone is another dimension with no planets or stars, just energy, and it's at least as large as 616.

The dimension's contents have nothing to do with its size. It could have had only grains of sand in it but still been billions of light-years in diameter. Philosophia provided the only real argument against it size, that is the propagation speeds of light and sound, but as I pointed out, in various alternate dimensions in Marvel those can work oddly.

And now you have no evidence -- on the contrary, you have evidence that nullifies any kind of argument to put it on the list, and generalize with "eh, whatever, dimensions can be different"? The burden of proof would be on you to prove that the speed of light and the speed of sound are not only bigger -- but trillions upon trillions of times bigger in this dimension. The burden of proof would be, agian, on you, to prove that the destruction is anything other than a few islands.

As it is, we have specific on-panel evidence that the size of at best a few light-moments and a few floating rocks in a void. This feat is nowhere near being justified, by the evidence, to be anywhere near planteary [nevermind Solar System, Galaxy or more -- It's not even a continental feat], thus its placement on your list is asinine.

But again, it is your list. Making up feats and putting them on there is valid, as I said.

Originally posted by Endless Mike

That's really cool, as it's a callback to the Golden Age which I've been reading recently.

Anyway, from what I can understand here, it seems that Vandal Savage tried to send him back in time to a different timeline/section of hypertime, where he had his early Golden Age powers only, but still had his modern memory. Also, he had a vague memory of the Golden Age era (because all of DC's history had been reintegrated probably), but he considered that memory impossible and incongruent with the history he knows. He also says that the era he was sent to was an illusion (although I think that's not literal as it certainly seemed to be physically real). Then it looks like he went to the Silver Age, and then fought alternate versions of himself, and finally managed to break through time back to the current timeline. Changing into multiple different versions of himself as he returned also reminded me of his fight against Dominus way back. In the end he said that every timeline lead to his present... so it's hard to interpret. I'd definitely rank it below SBP's feat, since he didn't destroy those universes/timelines, though, just escaped from them.

Action Comics 1000

I love how Parm's random scan passes Endless mike's high bar of proof.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I love how Parm's random scan passes Endless mike's high bar of proof.

I already agreed to include stuff without asterisks and caveats. Anyway, as I said, I don't even know the character, so I'm just going by what is shown in this thread. More context and I could easily end up removing it.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I already agreed to include stuff without asterisks and caveats. Anyway, as I said, I don't even know the character, so I'm just going by what is shown in this thread. More context and I could easily end up removing it.

Including items without even knowing what's happening in the scan is kinda different from including items and removing asterisks, lmao.

But like I said, I can definitely see your overly skeptical nature at work here lol.

But in the same vein:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

And why not? As you say, a powerful enough reality warper can do it - and Mxy is pretty powerful. If you allow *some*, then it allows others.

Then I guess I would have to say because it would be an outlier, just like the Hulk feat.

He physically runs with his legs. Item #3 states:

Running is a physical action, plus it was me having a cheeky dig at you with Flash:

My main reason for that scan, was to show that a lot has happened in the last 8 years. [/B]

Yeah but here I am talking about the amount of power required/generated by feats. For the one where they were disrupting the multiverse with the energy from their running speed, that would get on the list because it was having a physical effect.

It's your personal ranking list -- you can editorialize as much as you want without your own biases and double standards, it's fine. After all, if somebody reorders that same list and shows not your bias, but their bias, they'd probably move the stars around, too.

Well I'm not stopping anyone else from making their own version.

There's a difference between accepting it as a non-outlier feat for Hulk, and not understanding that it's not a feat worthy of the list in itself. This feat is nowhere near acceptable to have.

The same could be said about most of these feats. Sure, it doesn't make that much sense going by physics, but that would disqualify most of these (especially the infinite ones). But I am listing them anyway. I guess I just find it slightly less unbelievable than lifting or punching with infinite force, but, as we've already established, those are valid for this thread, so this one can be too.

Weren't you, pages ago, bolstering yourself on how "A lot of people do tell me that I am sometimes overly skeptical and my standards of evidence are too high"? Tsk, Mike, Mike, Mike.

Again, I would like to emphasize that I don't accept this as a legit feat for the Hulk, as it's an outlier. If someone was saying that 'The Hulk is stronger than Thor/Gladiator/Superman/Wonder Woman/etc. because he thunderclapped away a dimension' I wouldn't take that seriously. I think it's not a consistent feat.

And now you have no evidence -- on the contrary, you have evidence that nullifies any kind of argument to put it on the list, and generalize with "eh, whatever, dimensions can be different"? The burden of proof would be on you to prove that the speed of light and the speed of sound are not only bigger -- but trillions upon trillions of times bigger in this dimension. The burden of proof would be, agian, on you, to prove that the destruction is anything other than a few islands.

As it is, we have specific on-panel evidence that the size of at best a few light-moments and a few floating rocks in a void. This feat is nowhere near being justified, by the evidence, to be anywhere near planteary [nevermind Solar System, Galaxy or more -- It's not even a continental feat], thus its placement on your list is asinine.

But again, it is your list. Making up feats and putting them on there is valid, as I said.

I'm basing it on the fact that the comic repeatedly identifies it as a 'universe', and a 'cosmos'. Those words aren't typically used to refer to excessively small dimensions.

I could disqualify it, but then I'd also have to disqualify, well... everything except Superman lifting the 2 ton weight, lol. 😆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Including items without even knowing what's happening in the scan is kinda different from including items and removing asterisks, lmao.

But like I said, I can definitely see your overly skeptical nature at work here lol.

But in the same vein:

This list is a work in progress. Nothing is set in stone and I can update it when given more information.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I'm not stopping anyone else from making their own version.

Or, we can just start addressing their placement on your list, I'll move on to the next feats that aren't worth putting in there [or at least, nowhere near that high] once we get done with this one.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The same could be said about most of these feats. Sure, it doesn't make that much sense going by physics, but that would disqualify most of these (especially the infinite ones). But I am listing them anyway. I guess I just find it slightly less unbelievable than lifting or punching with infinite force, but, as we've already established, those are valid for this thread, so this one can be too.

Again, I would like to emphasize that I don't accept this as a legit feat for the Hulk, as it's an outlier. If someone was saying that 'The Hulk is stronger than Thor/Gladiator/Superman/Wonder Woman/etc. because he thunderclapped away a dimension' I wouldn't take that seriously. I think it's not a consistent feat.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I'm basing it on the fact that the comic repeatedly identifies it as a 'universe', and a 'cosmos'. Those words aren't typically used to refer to excessively small dimensions.

I could disqualify it, but then I'd also have to disqualify, well... everything except Superman lifting the 2 ton weight, lol. 😆

It's why you don't see me arguing that Superman can tank and punch Universes away:

We already have information within the comic regarding its size [light-moments] and composition [floating islands].

Thus, Hulk released heat and light for a small [relatively] distance, and deflected an island(s)-busting attack.

It is a relatively good feat [island busting isn't that frequent], but still below it being worthy of rank.

Here's how it should be updated:

1. Ultraman lifts infinite book
2. TIE: Superman and Captain Marvel lift infinite book/Hulk and Ironclad shake infinite dimensions/Superman and Jaxon's fight releases enough energy to fix infinite timelines
3. Superboy Prime destroys more than 3 universes with a punch
4. Flashes racing releases enough energy to disturb the multiverse
5. Superman breaks through Hypertime back to his own timeline
6. Superman destroys Big-Bang-proof pyramid
*7. Hulk reverses universe-destroying blast with a thunderclap
*8. Hulk's punch lights up dark cosmos
9. Superman sneezes away solar system
10. Superman breaks star-moving chains
11. Superman moves giant star with his breath
12. Lobo pulls Pulsar Stargrave
13. [Don't recognize the character] holds a star in his hand
14. Superboy throws mini neutron star
15. Wonder Woman moves the sun
16. Hulk resists weight of a star
17. Hulk walks through Vector's blast
18. Superman bench presses weight of Earth for 5 days
Hulk deflects a sonic blast which destroys a few floating islands*
Hulk's punches releases light and heat for thousands of miles*
19. Superman changes diamond into coal
20. Superman catches 2 ton weight

* Update#1

Now, unless you have any proof, we can move on to other feats.

This is not an outlier, this is a non-feat. You don't have any information to rank this feat anywhere near where you do -- thus the burden of proof you peddle is essentially non-existent [or at least, for some characters, and not others, apparently]. There is nothing within this feat that makes it worthy to be above anything on this list, except for the 2-ton and coal making ones, according to the information we have on the parameters for the magnitude of the feat.

Well the coal thing is another one that's physically impossible and defies all science as we know it. So for all we know, it could be a 'non-feat' too, or it could be more impressive than destroying the Dark-Crawler's dimension. 🙄

"Universe" and "Cosmos" are not information about its size or composition.

It's why you don't see me arguing that Superman can tank and punch Universes away:

In case you failed to notice, there are already multiple Superman feats on this list that have him doing just that. Even if they are outliers or don't make much sense.

If you want to argue that Neh-Buh-Loh in that scan has the power/mass of a universe, I can add Superman punching him to the list too.

I don't get why you and others are acting like I'm some sort of Hulk fanboy here. I initially made this thread because of a Youtube video where someone was saying that that particular Hulk feat was the most impressive strength feat ever in comics, which I obviously disagreed with, and I even posted a Superman feat as the first one to beat it.

Anyway, nowhere is the size of the dimension ever stated, and we know many of these alternate realms and dimensions in Marvel are universe-sized, and also have wonky physics (such as Dormammu's dimension being illuminated to its far reaches in instants). I also did a bit more research and found that in Marvel Fanfare #8, Dark-Crawler was able to cover the entire Earth (at least) with the darkness from his dimension (not sure if it was the same dimension, as it was destroyed, but maybe a similar one? I don't know). So that's some evidence that it's at least as large as the Earth.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well the coal thing is another one that's physically impossible and defies all science as we know it. So for all we know, it could be a 'non-feat' too, or it could be more impressive than destroying the Dark-Crawler's dimension. 🙄

Originally posted by Endless Mike
In case you failed to notice, there are already multiple Superman feats on this list that have him doing just that. Even if they are outliers or don't make much sense.

If you want to argue that Neh-Buh-Loh in that scan has the power/mass of a universe, I can add Superman punching him to the list too.

I don't get why you and others are acting like I'm some sort of Hulk fanboy here. I initially made this thread because of a Youtube video where someone was saying that that particular Hulk feat was the most impressive strength feat ever in comics, which I obviously disagreed with, and I even posted a Superman feat as the first one to beat it.

Anyway, nowhere is the size of the dimension ever stated, and we know many of these alternate realms and dimensions in Marvel are universe-sized, and also have wonky physics (such as Dormammu's dimension being illuminated to its far reaches in instants). I also did a bit more research and found that in Marvel Fanfare #8, Dark-Crawler was able to cover the entire Earth (at least) with the darkness from his dimension (not sure if it was the same dimension, as it was destroyed, but maybe a similar one? I don't know). So that's some evidence that it's at least as large as the Earth.

I don't want to argue that Superman can punch the DC Universe away just because he punched the QWEWK one away because I do not have the required data to make that assertion. I don't blankly make false equivalencies that all Universes are equal -- and even moreso if I was in the situation to the Hulk feat where there is even counter-evidence, like light/sound and composition parameters -- which completely nullify it. As I said - "Universe" and "Cosmos" are not information about its size or composition. We have the information about its size and composition in the very issue the showings takes place.

I'd agree that it's probably about as large as Earth given that light covered the entire dimensionin moments -- I'll give you that, so we've found common ground here. So a space about big as Earth illuminated, alongside a deflection of multiple islands-busting.

So I'd say the Update I put is fairly accurate.

So let's move to update #2

Ultraman lifts infinite book
TIE: Superman and Captain Marvel lift infinite book/Superman and Jaxon's fight releases enough energy to fix infinite timelines
Superboy Prime destroys more than 3 universes with a punch
Superman destroys Big-Bang-proof pyramid
Flashes racing releases enough energy to disturb the multiverse
Superman sneezes away solar system
Superman breaks star-moving chains
Superman moves giant star with his breath
Lobo pulls Pulsar Stargrave
Superboy throws mini neutron star
Wonder Woman moves the sun
Hulk walks through Vector's blast
Superman bench presses weight of Earth for 5 days
**Hulk resists weight of a star Hulk is immobilised by the weight of a star
**Hulk and Ironclad shake infinite dimensionsHulk and Ironclad affect the pathways which is felt in different dimensions
* Hulk reverses universe-destroying blast with a thunderclap Hulk deflects a sonic blast which destroys a few floating islands
*Hulk's punch lights up dark cosmos Hulk's punches releases light and heat for thousands of miles
Superman catches 2 ton weight

* Update#1
* Update#2

How do you feel about this? [in case you're wondering, yes, we'll move on to the rest of the characters, too]