Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
You replied to me saying something and then I answered you. Don't say I followed you in therte when I posted in that thread first. It does not work like that.
Why did you post first? Because you were trolling your overblown, childish view which you were admittedly doing for the sole purpose of disagreeing with me. You admitted this.
What's it going to take to stop you trolling?
-AC
Originally posted by soleran30
So aside from tugging words and playing semantics whats your stance on abortion?
It's far from semantics. It's stupid to say that someone that agrees with abortion is precisely the same as a murderer, as conceded by the person that said it.
The stance I have is that it doesn't concern me, which can be extrapolated into a view that if people want to do it, then let them. As people have stated, it shouldn't be used as birth control, but that's not a problem with abortion, it's a problem with irresponsible people.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNo, you saw me post and followed me in there to get quotes and say oh I must use. You say one thing in this thread and then in another thread your views change to suit you. Alot of people in here pointed that out as well that only AC is allowed to use this concept but not others because it;s wrong. Oh and please shut up with the name calling or trying to imply something. You are the child here and you would rather die than admit you are wrong. yes, this convo will go on forever until you get the last word. Begin.
Why did you post first? Because you were trolling your overblown, childish view which you were admittedly doing for the sole purpose of disagreeing with me. You admitted this.What's it going to take to stop you trolling?
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It's far from semantics. It's stupid to say that someone that agrees with abortion is precisely the same as a murderer, as conceded by the person that said it.The stance I have is that it doesn't concern me, which can be extrapolated into a view that if people want to do it, then let them. As people have stated, it shouldn't be used as birth control, but that's not a problem with abortion, it's a problem with irresponsible people.
And since I didn't use the right piece from your quote I misrepresented what I meant to say in my statement.
Thats also what I meant with my tugging of words and semantics statement as well. Bad verbage and wording on my part there obviously.
I think that just because abortion is not defined as murder, doesn't mean it isn't murder. The law can't define it as murder, because women would have coathanger abortions, and the law can't have the blood of women on it's hands, so to speak.
When you think about it, the law is pro choice. If I was 8 weeks pregnant, and someone attacked me with the intent of killing my baby, I can't seek justice for my child because the law shows no respect for the opinions of those who are pro life. The law would see my unborn child as a non human, not a person. What if I think differently? I could feel that my child was murdered, and the law would tell me that it wasn't murder, because the baby wasn't born. Who is anyone to tell me that? The law is on the pro choice side, which defeats the purpose of anyone being pro life. Why are we pro life when the law doesn't respect our opinion?
Definitions of murder don't count. Abortion could be murder, even if the legal definition doesn't say that. We don't know. More research is needed to effectivly proof it eithor way. So both sides are correct. I pisses me off when pro choices say that it isn't murder, then use the legal definition to back it up. That means nothing. Think what you like, but respect the opinions of others.
The abortion drug has just been legalised in Australia, after being banned for ten years. Women celebrated this 'victory' with glasses of champayne. Clinking glasses for the right to take a pill, likened to a human pesticide, which is what I believe it to be. The abortion rate in this country will skyrocket, women will use this drug as a quick fix to unwanted pregnancys. Not once during the entire week long debate did ANY pro choicer mention the high rate of abortions. They simply don't care. All they care about is being able to abort their children.
Having an abortion because a child will interfere with your social life isn't good enough. Nor is it if you put your career first. Use contraception if you don't wish to have a baby.
When you drive your car down the street, you risk crashing. When you cross the road you rish being hit by a car. When you go to work each day you risk being injured on the job.
When you have unprotected sex you risk falling pregnant. Why must women take responsiblity on the roads and in the workplace, but not have to take any responsiblity for their bodies?
Last night on the news I heard about a man being jailed for ingecting his partners with the AIDS virus. He knew he had it but didn't tell them.
AIDS kills, same as abortion. Why should this man have told his partners that he had AIDS? It's his body, isn't it, so therefore his choice on whether or not to disclose the information. All women he infected were one night stands. One nights stands are notorious for causing unwanted pregnancys. I actually feel no sympathy for the women at all, one night stands make a person a whore, in my opinion. This man shouldn't have had to tell these women he had AIDS. Why should he? It's his body. Women don't have to tell their partners that they have aborted their children, do they?
Yesterday a man was jailed for 20 years for killing his ex girlfriend. They had been having an affair, when out of the blue she broke it off, then, on this mans birthday, sent him a text message saying that she aborted his child. The man, so angered and upset that he wasn't told he was expecting a baby, killed her. This woman got everything she deserved, I can't muster up an ounce of sympathy for her. She had no right to do what she did.
See what abortion can do to expectant fathers? This is why the fathers should be told.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't even know you posted in there you idiot, I clicked last post and scrolled up to read the previous posts and by chance, found yours. Which, not surprisingly, exposed hypocricy. Which you later admitted was posted purely to exacerbate the situation and exaggerate my view.I've not changed my views at all, I maintain the same view I have since I came into this thread, so if that makes you sleep at night, go for convincing yourself.
I'm not trying to get the last word, I'm trying to understand why, because you dislike my view, you're going around saying "Yeah, like AC said, kill em all." Which I've never said. I get that you dislike my view, what I don't get is your obsession with me that has popped up here, in my PM box and occassionally in older OTF threads. Unless you stop and choose to debate sensibly on the topic, I will report you.
-AC
Oh shut up, when you replied to me so eager to use my qoutes against me in another thread and had to type it, then I replied and said you influenced me...wait so if you influenced me to think a different I am only suppose to use that in that thread ? I said the idea of on who cares and not your business you went futher and saw something else because you are paraniod.
No you twisted my words around with that last part.
No, the PM thing was from the friend thread when you said something and I was just wondering but then you started a fight in a thread I made with some one else with so much anger so I got concerned and simply asked you about it.
In debates in here you talk down to what other people say like they are some stupid child that you imply heavily in your posts. If you are going to talk like that then don't be surprised when some one answers you.
go ahead and report me if it will make you feel better. Atleast this will stop then.
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurii already typed that before you pmed me...a PM does not go through until I refresh the page. When i poste diot then I got the PM.
Funny how you insisted I want the last word, only to post the PM in here.I have case, I shall now close this case. Thank you for proving every point I have just made, correct.
-AC
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
i already typed that before you pmed me...a PM does not go through until I refresh the page. When i poste diot then I got the PM.
You somehow knew what I typed before I typed it? Stop it dude, just let it go.
Originally posted by Makedde
Legal terms suck.
Why? Because they're factual?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhat I replied to your first post then when i sent it I got your pm and then saw your second post sayiong lets go in PM...How was I suppose to know you edited it after i replied
You somehow knew what I typed before I typed it? Stop it dude, just let it go.Why? Because they're factual?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauriplease.
When are you going to understand that on an open discussion board, anyone has the right to reply to anyone else? Unless it's PMs, everything is open to reply to. It matters none if you were talking to me or not. Ironically, you don't care about "butting" into conversations, only when it's you.I'm just saying, don't discuss me. I'm flattered, but don't. This isn't a thread for that.
-AC
Again with the hypocracy?
is it comprehensible.....
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
What I replied to your first post then when i sent it I got your pm and then saw your second post sayiong lets go in PM...
I didn't make the post you quoted. I PMed you it, so you couldn't have typed it before you got the PM. Are you going to keep this up much longer? I said deal with it in PM, I PMed you to deal with your childish demeanour and you chose to bring it BACK to the thread. Get out of it.
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It does, no need for the rest of the post. It's a legal term, so it's a legal definition. If you want to change murder into something else, call it something else.
Its phrases like that which will be put to an axe by an attorney and clearly defined to minimize rights...........
However in a rare piece where a "fetus," one day before birth should be aborted then murder does place a spot on the law books if someone would like to contest the abortion given the right situation.
Originally posted by Makedde
Because they show no respect for those who believe abortion is murder. The law has no right to tell someone what they should and shouldn't believe.
Hahahahaha. Funniest comment ever.
The law and legal terms suck.....because they don't adhere to your blinkered and unfounded opinion that abortion is murder, but do infact directly counter it? Odd view. By odd I do most definitely mean ridiculous.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauriyou posted that first in this thread and I qouted that one when i saw it and typed a reponse and posted it ..
I didn't make the post you quoted. I PMed you it, so you couldn't have typed it before you got the PM. Are you going to keep this up much longer? I said deal with it in PM, I PMed you to deal with your childish demeanour and you chose to bring it BACK to the thread. Get out of it.-AC
Shut up with the childish demeanour bullshit.