Originally posted by The Black Ghost
The more we lose our bonds to faith the further we all fall towards the ultimate destruction of humanity.
Yeah, tell that to the dinosaurs.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
and our society itself is being eaten and eroded by immorality and insolence.
Oh, I agree! Boys kissing and kids talking back to their parents is going to be the end of us.
Originally posted by StyleTime
You want proof? The entire Constitution of the United States of America is my proof. It is NOT a guaranteed right anywhere in our law. You show me where you have the right to ban it.
See our founding fathers new the world would change and thats why there are amendments to the constitution...................there have been so many changes I wouldn't know where to begin however I never said I could.
You said we do not have the right to ban it. You said those were the facts, not I. The burden of proof falls to you, they were your statements not mine. Show me the facts just the facts....................
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnacy_-_3rd_Trimester#Third_trimester
crazylover read that link it identifies specifically where a majority of doctors and scientists consider a fetus to be "human."
Originally posted by soleran30
See our founding fathers new the world would change and thats why there are amendments to the constitution...................there have been so many changes I wouldn't know where to begin however I never said I could.You said we do not have the right to ban it. You said those were the facts, not I. The burden of proof falls to you, they were your statements not mine. Show me the facts just the facts....................
I am sure you know the Constitution well enough. We have NO right to ban abortion. It would take up much less space for you to simply point out the line giving the right to interfere with a woman manipulating her own body while infringing upon noone.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
😒 Why do you think?
I have a reason, I'd just like to hear yours. It seems that people say life is important simply because we've been told that or the laws say so without thinking about what (human) life is.
Give me an answer before reading the below please.
Spoiler:
Murder is wrong because life is everywhere and outside of our control. It is nearly unthinkable to destroy all life, yes, I believe in extra-terrestrials, so to destroy a life, especially one that has the potential to do great things before it is ended, is only a hindrance to society as a whole.
Originally posted by soleran30
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnacy_-_3rd_Trimester#Third_trimestercrazylover read that link it identifies specifically where a majority of doctors and scientists consider a fetus to be "human."
Okay, so maybe human life begins in the third trimester, thank you for linking me. But then, that just shoots the pro-life argument out of the water...
But they'll still disagree.
P.S. crazyloZer. Why can't people understand the self-deprecation? crazylover, crazylover, crazylover, that's all I hear. 😠
Why is everyone still trying to weave murder into this debate? It has factually no place here. Proven time and time again.
Murder = Unlawful and illegal (only a legal term, not a moral one) killing of an innocent human being.
Abortion = The legal (IE: Not unlawful, murder definition is out the window) practice of aborting cells (not human, second part of murder definition out the window) to prevent a human from coming to fruition at birth.
Can we drop this now? There's no connection to be made between murder and abortion.
Second, what's so hard to understand about Christianity being a CHOSEN belief? Why should laws be based on a religion that many people don't follow? Why should I follow rules based on a God I don't even know exists? Why should anyone? If you want to follow those rules, I accept that. I want to follow my own, you should accept THAT.
-AC
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
crazy do you really need an answer to that question? No one is going to justify murder. Murder (ending a living human being's life for yourself is always bad, simply because they are losing their life and they cant ever relive it. If you want a better explanation read the Bible.
What kind of logic is that? They can't ever relive it? What if it's a bad life...
"If you want a better explanation read the Bible."
Exactly my point. Your idea comes soley from your religion, I doubt that you've put much thought into the matter yourself.
Originally posted by StyleTime
You want me to copy and paste the entire Constitution here?I am sure you know the Constitution well enough. We have NO right to ban abortion. It would take up much less space for you to simply point out the line giving the right to interfere with a woman manipulating her own body while infringing upon noone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_vs_wade
Do yourself a favor and read that. Thats not the whole constitution which by the way has nothing in it that says a women has the right to an abortion which gets all tied up in a cadre of other laws that just get jumbled.
So read that then give me the facts here on why we do not have the right to ban abortions, fair enough? I just gave you a HUGE hand there.
Then take those things and leave the rest of the world alone. Clearly there are many people who do not have the wisdom to see the truth outright. Abortion is a practice based off of selfish intents and is a ursurption of life. If medical science hadn't figured out how to do it no one would have the choice of it would they now? It would have been better left that way.