Originally posted by myaktrustsnoone
Well i think we all have heard the story about
"Little mary going to a party and drinking then not being able to control her sexual actions ( yes alocohol is a proven sex stimulant ) and then having sex and the next day saying she was raped"... i dont that is getting raped to me, i think she was ignorant for not listening to her mother.HATExEDGE
I gotta agree with TO...You couldn't look like a bigger ass if you were attached to the backside of Oprah before her diet
This is all I'm gonna say about this ignorance because it simply can not be worded!
Originally posted by naybean
It is an excuse when you have 3 other children and by having a 4th you will not be able to provide for 4 children but you can just afford to support 3.
That is just irresponsible. You should not have sex if you are not willing to except the responsibilities that come with it. Being poor is no excuse to kill.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
You are killing an entity derived from YOURSELF, you should have an oblegation to know what is going on in an operation. If you are not willing to kill it for yourself, then you probably shouldn't be killing it to begin with.
What is crueler? extinguising life? or remembering it?
knowing what is going on and actually taking part in the procedure are two completely different things. the operation itself should be left to the professionals alone. an abortion is an operation, not a punishment.
I'm afraid I don't see the idea with your last line.
Originally posted by Myth
That is just irresponsible. You should not have sex if you are not willing to except the responsibilities that come with it. Being poor is no excuse to kill.
Originally posted by myaktrustsnoone
Naybean, correctThere is always governmental help/orphanges/friends/family... i doubt that people are just going to sit back and watch your son/daughter die of hunger... ect.
Originally posted by myaktrustsnoone
Well i think we all have heard the story about
"Little mary going to a party and drinking then not being able to control her sexual actions ( yes alocohol is a proven sex stimulant ) and then having sex and the next day saying she was raped"... i dont that is getting raped to me, i think she was ignorant for not listening to her mother.
Originally posted by BackFire
Some may, but that's not for anyone but them to decide.
I've seen a mother take pain and anguish just for thier children to feel none..... and read about a women lift large objects to save children... men the same.... and if you talk to any parent ... anywhere... 99.9999% would gladly sacrifice thier life for thier child.
Originally posted by Myth
I completely agree that sex education should be increased to avoid accidental pregnancies.. But no matter how well the economy thrives, there will still be poor people, and being poor is no excuse to kill a fetus.
Oh and don't forget the Mothers killing children for thier "careers"
Originally posted by Line
knowing what is going on and actually taking part in the procedure are two completely different things. the operation itself should be left to the professionals alone. an abortion is an operation, not a punishment.I'm afraid I don't see the idea with your last line.
It is a punishment. The life you are egstinguishing is BEING KILLED. A mother should remember for all time the action they are partaking in..... if they are not willing to do so then they really haven't thought the procedure through or researched it enough.
Its funny how we get sex education, but we don't get abortion education.... i think the procedures undertaken should really be made clear. Because seriously people.... its horrible... if i performed the same on an adult.... I would be considered a monster. Geffery Dommer did things similar to what the "doctors" do.
Considering that everything that a doctor takes an oath for is completely taken back on during an abortion... they should not be considered a doctor anymore.
"What so money should determine whether or not you can have sex or not? Thats why people use protection - but its not 100% effective so there needs to be the option of abortion."
In a sense. It is unfair to bring a child into a world if you are not prepared to take care of it (that includes financially). It is MORE unfair to kill it because you don't think you can take care of it. You are right, birth control is not 100% effective. The only thing that is, is not having sex. Sense it is not 100%, there is a chance of pregnancy and if you are not will to accept your responsibilities, don't take that chance. Just because you didn't want to be pregnant, doesn't mean you should get to kill.
"Oh and don't forget the Mothers killing children for thier 'careers'"
I completely agree.
" that life is being killed? you haven't followed the thread closely I think, since there was some discussion about IF a foetus is a person/alife/etc. and at WHAT stage..."
When is that mythical dividing line between a fetus and a living baby? A fetus does not go instantly from "a non-living fetus" to "life" in an instant, and there is no such thing as "in-between" living and non-living. It is one, or the other. And again, how can a fetus one second be non-living and then next be living? Life begins at conception.
Originally posted by Myth
In a sense. It is unfair to bring a child into a world if you are not prepared to take care of it (that includes financially). It is MORE unfair to kill it because you don't think you can take care of it. You are right, birth control is not 100% effective. The only thing that is, is not having sex. Sense it is not 100%, there is a chance of pregnancy and if you are not will to accept your responsibilities, don't take that chance. Just because you didn't want to be pregnant, doesn't mean you should get to kill.
"Oh and don't forget the Mothers killing children for thier 'careers'"I completely agree.
When is that mythical dividing line between a fetus and a living baby? A fetus does not go instantly from "a non-living fetus" to "life" in an instant, and there is no such thing as "in-between" living and non-living. It is one, or the other. And again, how can a fetus one second be non-living and then next be living? Life begins at conception.
Life begins at conception. It is human because of its genes. If one is going by apperance, there are disfigured adults that are still human. Besides, by about 12 weeks, it does look like a child.
Abortion is murder, plain and simple.
There is a reason abortion doctors will not show women what they are doing or what the unborn child looks like.
One woman I know of almost got and abortion. Then, she got an ultrasound. On her way to the abortion doctor, she started sobbing. She said "it has a heartbeat."
Fetus is actually italian for little person. A fetus is a child.
Where do you break the line? From conception on, it is a process. There is no clear place to break the point where life begins except at conception.
Have you seen pictures of abortions? I have, and trust me, it is discusting. That is why abortion doctors do not want to give women information about all her options. They want the money and they don't care if they kill to get it.
Government is supposed to be in place to protect it's inosents. Yet now we are in a place where the most inosent of all are being murdered.
There are people who have to live off of others. They can't care for themselves. Newborns can't care for themselves either. It is not legal to kill them.
Scientists know that life begins at conception. It is illigal to kill unborn bald eagles. They can see that this fetus will turn into an eagle and it is thus illigal to kill them.
Shouldn't it be even more so with humans?
1. I've seen aborted fetuses, and I still approve. So what if it's disgusting? Lots of things in life are. If you consider aborting a fetus murder, then you should consider picking a flower murder. They are the same thing, groups of cells.
2. About the bald eagle thing, the Bald Eagle is an endagered species. It's not because they know that the fetus will turn into an eagle that it's illegal to kill it, but because they want the population to grow. If you haven't noticed, there are 6.8 Billion humans on the planet. We are so far from being an endangered species, that we actually need population control to reduce our numbers.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
1. I've seen aborted fetuses, and I still approve. So what if it's disgusting? Lots of things in life are. If you consider aborting a fetus murder, then you should consider picking a flower murder. They are the same thing, groups of cells.
Holy crap, that's a good post clapping Such simple reasoning but still so poignant, if those ignorami out there don't get it after reading this then there's no hope 🙄