"that good can come out of a rape."
A) If you've never ever been raped, shut the hell up and keep quiet. No good comes of rape. I had to watch one of the people closest to me live with rape for a better part of her teen years and still does now.
B) Just coz that girl can handle it, doesn't mean anyone else can.
Stop using one perspective as a way to judge. You lack experience and therefore your standpoint is faulty.
-AC
LOL Alpha, YOUR opinion!!!!
Everyone deals with things differently, good can come out of it, rather you believe it or not. NOT in all cases, do people react the way you described, just as the way I descrbed, not everyone will respond that way, but I never said it was easy for her to understand, I said, she turned out GREAT, even though she was a result of rape.
I see what you are aiming at FE, the unfortunate event that your friends mother got raped resulted in your friend being born.
Even though rape is one of the worst crimes the result of it "was good" in the sense that your friend was born. Must be a bitter sweet comfort for the mother to take pleasure in her daughter that was conceived under such horrible circumstances though. Must be weird, I have no idea how that must feel since I cant relate to the situation at all.
I have a very close friend who told me he was conceived of rape, he's absolutely f*cked up about it. Good really does come of rape huh? You tell me exactly what good came of that.not all destinies are alike, some cope with it after all they were born, some have a big problem with it.
You then have to take into account how the child will feel when it finds out it was born of rape.
It's not like "The condom broke, you weren't planned but we're you parents and we love you."
It's "Some man I don't know forced intercourse on me and you are born from him."
I think it's the child's right to know which is more than likely gonna damage it. Then again if you don't come clean, you'll be living a lie.
-AC
You then have to take into account how the child will feel when it finds out it was born of rape.of course you have, but Ive heard about many cases where the rape victim found out way to late that she was pregnant so an abortion couldnt be performed. The situation of telling your child of how it was conceived must be one of the biggest heartbreaker there is. But as I said some are able to cope with it some dont that is just the plain facts about it
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[1]some women are gonna deal with it to another extreme, sometimes yes, leaving it in a dumpster or in sadder cases, killing it extremely.[2] The way I see it, if you're so self-righteous and so gung-ho about life, stop the unwanted child from coming to fruition into a world where it wont be loved, wont be cared for and wont be given the QUALITY of life it deserves. Yes it has literal life, it is alive in the world after birth. But it will have no quality of life if no one cares for it.
Someone said "it's not the baby's fault she couldn't keep her legs closed." Exactly. So why force it to be brought into the world where it will suffer more as a defenseless human than a bunch of cells with no memory, life on Earth or human characteristics.
[3] Here's my view. If abortion is made legal, each and every person who voted for it to be made illegal, especially those who voted just coz they share Myth's view, should register their name on a big big list. Whenever an unwanted child is born, save being thrown in a dumpster, a person be selected from the list of anti-abortionists and the baby can be dropped of at their home.
What? You forced her to have it. You don't want it dumped. You raise it.
-AC
1. We shouldn't claim that 1 extreme is good to avoid another because either way a bad thing is being done. I know many of you will say that abortion isn't bad but you weren't saying that. Your justification was that it isn't as bad as dropping them off at a dumpster. Not as bad does not equal good.
2. "why force it to be brought into the world where it will suffer more" - We can't predict the future. How do we know that it "will" suffer more? They at least deserve a chance. Like I said before, most people with bad lives still choose to live.
3. "I" did not take the risk. It is not "my" responsibility. Is it your responsibility to take care of anybody who is dying? No. But if they were dying because of you, then it is your responsibility.
"Your justification was that it isn't as bad as dropping them off at a dumpster. Not as bad does not equal good."
Well.....technically dropping them in a dumpster isn't as bad as killing them in the sense that there's a chance they'll be found and adopted. It's still shitty I know, but not as bad. Whether you agree or not.
"We can't predict the future. How do we know that it "will" suffer more? They at least deserve a chance. Like I said before, most people with bad lives still choose to live."
The one person who DESERVES something more than the kid, is the mother. She deserves the chance to decide what she wants to do with the cells inside her. Not you. If a woman has sex, becomes pregnant and really doesn't want that baby, it will more than likely end up worse. So end it before it becomes a baby.
""I" did not take the risk. It is not "my" responsibility. Is it your responsibility to take care of anybody who is dying? No. But if they were dying because of you, then it is your responsibility."
It's not your fault, your risk, your responsibility, or your business. So let her do what she wants. If you make it your business in forcing her to have the baby, then you are responsible in part for the shit life that baby may have, being that it could have been prevented.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Your justification was that it isn't as bad as dropping them off at a dumpster. Not as bad does not equal good."Well.....technically dropping them in a dumpster isn't as bad as killing them in the sense that there's a chance they'll be found and adopted. It's still shitty I know, but not as bad. Whether you agree or not.
"We can't predict the future. How do we know that it "will" suffer more? They at least deserve a chance. Like I said before, most people with bad lives still choose to live."
The one person who DESERVES something more than the kid, is the mother. She deserves the chance to decide what she wants to do with the cells inside her. Not you. If a woman has sex, becomes pregnant and really doesn't want that baby, it will more than likely end up worse. So end it before it becomes a baby.
""I" did not take the risk. It is not "my" responsibility. Is it your responsibility to take care of anybody who is dying? No. But if they were dying because of you, then it is your responsibility."
It's not your fault, your risk, your responsibility, or your business. So let her do what she wants. If you make it your business in forcing her to have the baby, then you are responsible in part for the shit life that baby may have, being that it could have been prevented.
-AC
It pointless to compare abortion to dropping the baby off at the dumpster. They are both bad and both should be illegal. Don't use one to justify the other.
Why does a mother deserve more than the kid? A mother should not deserve the choice to eliminate the life inside of her. Why is the child's life less deserving of a chance?
Is people murdering other people my business? No. Should it still be stopped? Yes. Just because something should be stopped because it is wrong and support that it should be stopped, does not mean that I have to take responsibility for it. Otherwise everybody who says that crime in general is bad must go be vigilante heroes. Honestly, murder is bad and I'm assuming you agree, so why don't you go out and stop murderers if you are anti-murder? Thats right, not your responsibility.