Abortion

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am evading nothing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes, i would vote to ban abortion. you know full well my views on this, so why ask?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I claimed that I would not vote

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Despite having claimed adamance in your resolve, you now state you wouldn't vote, after pressure has been applied. Which adds another layer to the hypocrisy of stating that you wouldn't try to impose your beliefs on others and then stating that you would try to impose your beliefs on others in the form of a ban on abortion because you do not agree with it. "Be a man." Hold your belief, and hold fast to the original statement that you'd vote for a ban based on it. But don't deny that you wouldn't be forcing your beliefs on others, because that's utter bullshit.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How many times do I have to tell you that IF I were forced to vote, it'd be pro life?

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That's not the admission. You still deny that to do that would be forcing beliefs, which it factually would.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

yes, i would vote to ban abortion. you know full well my views on this, so why ask?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

I claimed that I would not vote because though I am against abortion, I am not an activist. though I think abortion is wrong, I am not going to go out of my way to push this belief on others. hmmmm......Taun We....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's not the admission. You still deny that to do that would be forcing beliefs, which it factually would.

-AC

then if the majority of americans voted to legalise slavery they would be morally clean...because hey...they voted for it....majority rule.

quick, ignore that [edit: again] and do another dance for me

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's because I do not believe that voting on something is forcing my will upon others. If that were the case, then every votebin hostory would be views being forced upon the losing party.

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Yes, that is exactly what it is, and I'm simply asking you to admit that, because you are acting like you're free from doing such a thing, whilst blatantly, you are not.

-AC

and you all know that I posted "I would vote against abortion" only if forced to do so. AC asked a blunt question and I gave a blunt answer. there was no flipflopping, I stated that I would only vote if forced to do so.

so to quote me and post a picture of a flipflop , while amusing, is inaccurate.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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Yes, that is exactly what it is, and I'm simply asking you to admit that, because you are acting like you're free from doing such a thing, whilst blatantly, you are not.

-AC

Originally posted by Schecter
then if the majority of americans voted to legalise slavery they would be morally clean...because hey...they voted for it....majority rule.

quick, ignore that [edit: again] and do another dance for me

Originally posted by Schecter
then if the majority of americans voted to legalise slavery they would be morally clean...because hey...they voted for it....majority rule.

quick, ignore that [edit: again] and do another dance for me

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and you all know that I posted "I would vote against abortion" only if forced to do so. AC asked a blunt question and I gave a blunt answer. there was no flipflopping, I stated that I would only vote if forced to do so.

so to quote me and post a picture of a flipflop , while amusing, is inaccurate.

Blunt answer? You still haven't actually answered me.

We have all factually proven how you would be forcing your personal beliefs on others by voting to ban abortion for PERSONAL reasons, so at this point it's just you being ignorant.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
would you have me admit to something I do not believe in? seriously, think about that before answering.

It does not matter whether or not you "believe" you would be imposing your beliefs on others. You would FACTUALLY be imposing your beliefs on others. You're either being deliberately obtuse or are actually this slow.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I dance for food.....quarter pounder with cheese?

its clear now that you're just another 'ignore/divert' tactician. pathetic.

Also, McDonald's is disgusting.

Why one would dance for it is beyond me.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Blunt answer? You still haven't actually answered me.

We have all factually proven how you would be forcing your personal beliefs on others by voting to ban abortion for PERSONAL reasons, so at this point it's just you being ignorant.

-AC

as far as forcing my views on others, what are you doing to me now?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The original question from Bardock was not framed in a manner where you would be forced.

It does not matter whether or not you "believe" you would be imposing your beliefs on others. You would FACTUALLY be imposing your beliefs on others. You're either being deliberately obtuse or are actually this slow.

as for forcing my opinions on others, see my previous post. who's the hypocrite now?

Originally posted by Schecter
its clear now that you're just another 'ignore/divert' tactician. pathetic.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
what more do you want? you want me to say that I believe that by voting prolife that I would believe that I am forcing nmy views on others? I can't do that, because I don't believe it.

Stop saying that, nobody is talking about voting "pro-life", we're talking about voting to outlaw or ban abortion.

If you did that, based on personal beliefs, you would be forcing those beliefs on others, as it'd apply to everyone.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
as far as forcing my views on others, what are you doing to me now?

Continually pointing out to you that if you did vote to ban abortion, you'd be forcing your beliefs on others.

It is a fact, it's not my belief, it's actual fact. You being ignorant to it because you wish to avoid being called oppressive is your own deal. You obviously aren't as pro-freedom as you wish you were.

-AC

For once, I agree with AC. Whilst I would, under most circumstances, not even consider abortion, I'm not going to force others into being unable to make that choice. Who am I to say Slutty Sue can kill her baby? Forcing my beliefs on her, which root primarily from religion, is unconstitutional and just plain wrong.

Pro-Choice.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Stop saying that, nobody is talking about voting "pro-life", we're talking about voting to outlaw or ban abortion.

If you did that, based on personal beliefs, you would be forcing those beliefs on others, as it'd apply to everyone.

Continually pointing out to you that if you did vote to ban abortion, you'd be forcing your beliefs on others.

It is a fact, it's not my belief, it's actual fact. You being ignorant to it because you wish to avoid being called oppressive is your own deal. You obviously aren't as pro-freedom as you wish you were.

-AC