Originally posted by Classic NESThe handgun feat [https://i.imgur.com/dGoDKee.jpg] is the best one in terms of reacting to a fast event, covering the distance and grabbing the bullet before it hits the target located inches from the bullet --- that would make his reaction time in the ballpark of around 1/10 of a milisecond, or 1/10000 of a second. It varies, depending on how far you think the gun is from the person's head, and how far you think Sentry is from both -- but around there. It also depends how you see the flight itself -- it's not like driving a jet where you have to make physical actions to change directions and whatnot, flight is essentially a matter of willing yourself in directions and nothing else, so it's easier, sort to speak.
H1 is essentially saying that it takes much higher reflexes to move at relativistic or beyond speeds in shorter distances. So, Sentry would need reflex feats that put him at that level. I'm not a Sentry expert, but does anyone have any feats that clocks him up there?
Be that as it may, there's ample space here for it to be achieved, if that is a tactic h1 chooses to apply. But, for some reason, even though he wants to hit as hard as he can, he doesn't.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I only recall a discussion with Saint in regards of what characters are allowed to do during prep time, iirc it was in the Joker vs. Iron Man thrwad
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Didn't the mod [I think it was Pr?] say that you're allowed to go in the air and attack? It was in space, too, iirc.
It was also (why is it I'm always involved??) around characters like Nightcrawler and Zoom, because he's in a different timeline and Kurt teleports via another realm.
Originally posted by Enzeru
The only reason H1Z1 can often make such claims in discussions, is because most Marvel writers don't cosplay as bird mothers and pre-chew the food information for him and vomit it into his mouth.Why would you limit Sentry to needing hundreds of miles to enter the speed of light? If he needs that speed, he will access it immediately - almost like pretty much every other cosmic character.
Here is what Matt Fraction had in his mind, when he wrote the scene where Sentry beat the crap out of Namor – and Emma Frost and Professor X helped Sentry gather his thoughts for a brief moment:
Also Thor was traveling billions of lightyears in a relative short amount of time – with galaxies passing by in a blur. And he was completely fine:
https://i.imgur.com/m40UkVj.jpgYet when DS Sentry dragged Thor at his speed and velocity, Thor had no idea what was going on. Replace Thor with Silver Surfer and you have the same scene, since Mjolnir has outraced Silver Surfer. I'd strongly argue that Mjolnir is faster.
I'm willing to entertain the idea of Saitama surpassing Sentrys upper levels of power, because that's what he is supposed to do as a character. But we seriously have jokers in this thread, who think that even Cosmic Fear Garou would make it pretty far in the list. He wouldn't.
The portrayal of speed in anime has fried some peoples brains, when it comes to unbiased debating.
Speed in anime is animated and drawn well and it looks like a lot of stuff is happening at once, but as soon as you are confronted with facts and numbers everything starts falling apart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kIXyNt_yvcThere Whis makes fun of Goku and Vegeta for having to think before they attack. And even if you want to make the argument that they can move their limbs at the speed of light, they are still limited to the speed of thought to initiate their attack. That's where Ultra Instinct comes in and provides an upgrade.
But in the time it takes someone like Goku to think, a Gladiator / Superman / Flash / Sentry has punched a hole through his chest.
So what is your proof that Sentry can obtain lights speed within 0.5km?
And you can't use showings to understand other showings when variable showings exist in fiction. Supergirl could casually lift a half million ton key and turn around and struggle with 100 tons. Thor and Mjolnir can go into the sun one issue and Mjolnir melt in another.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm asking similar questions because, even though you [Sentry] would want to hit as hard as you can using flight, instead of making the simple deduction that you'd need to fly as fast as possible [thereby reducing the possibility of a failed initial attack] - you choose not to, and constrain yourself to a straight 500m line where you cannot hit as hard as you can.In that way, even though Character Induced Stupidity ([b]CIS
) is off, the H1 Induced Stupidity (HIS) is active, and I'm trying to figure out why you wouldn't make that deduction.I see you said that he needs 2.4 km [and more, depending on the speed] to achieve [FT]L status. Nice. So he can.
Ha!
I believe we've had a discussion with mods on that specific topic. [/B]
2.4km is the radius of the circle he needs (if he was generating speed by flying in a circle). He needs a longer distance if flying straight on.
I wouldn't deduce that because I wouldn't think it would be necessary, and possibly a disadvantage (I gave reasons why the tactic can backfire).
It just wouldnt occur to me at all. The why is irrelevant.
Let's just kill the current argument since it's irrelevant.
Sentry best feat of reaction time is the bullet catch feat. He operated in 1/1800 of a second. So let's say his reaction time is 1/3 of that or 1/5400 of a second. I posted the calculations and can do so again.
That means even if Sentry could achieve light speed (whether in a circle or flying far away or within 0.5km) then he won't have the perceptions to be able to hit a moving Saitama while Sentry is MOVING AT FTL SPEED. Like in boxing, throwing a punch where the opponents head moves and you miss. Sentry's lack of reactions will always make him miss, regardless of how fast he's going. Unless Saitama is standing still.
Originally posted by h1a8
Let's just kill the current argument since it's irrelevant.
Sentry best feat of reaction time is the bullet catch feat. He operated in 1/1800 of a second. So let's say his reaction time is 1/3 of that or 1/5400 of a second. I posted the calculations and can do so again.That means even if Sentry could achieve light speed (whether in a circle or flying far away or within 0.5km) then he won't have the perceptions to be able to hit a moving Saitama while Sentry is MOVING AT FTL SPEED. Like in boxing, throwing a punch where the opponents head moves and you miss. Sentry's lack of reactions will always make him miss, regardless of how fast he's going. Unless Saitama is standing still.
Who has faster reactions, a bullet or Brandon Lee?
Originally posted by h1a8Sure, 2.4km sounds peachy. How much distance would he need flying straight on, in your estimation?
2.4km is the radius of the circle he needs (if he was generating speed by flying in a circle). He needs a longer distance if flying straight on.I wouldn't deduce that because I wouldn't think it would be necessary, and possibly a disadvantage (I gave reasons why the tactic can backfire).
It just wouldnt occur to me at all. The why is irrelevant.
If you have to choose between landing your hardest hit and possibly winning or landing a much lesser hit and increasing the chance of failing, under which complex mind-jutsu would you choose the latter and not even thinking about doing the former?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Sure, 2.4km sounds peachy. How much distance would he need flying straight on, in your estimation?If you have to choose between landing your hardest hit and possibly winning or landing a much lesser hit and increasing the chance of failing, under which complex mind-jutsu would you choose the latter and not even thinking about doing the former?
I would choose landing my hardest hit from my starting position.
Note: this argument is now irrelevant due to my previous post.
Originally posted by h1a8But if you have to choose between landing your hardest hit and possibly winning by building up speed or landing a much lesser hit from your starting position and increasing the chance of failing, under which complex mind-jutsu would you choose the latter and not even thinking about doing the former?
I would choose landing my hardest hit from my starting position.
Btw, how much distance would he need to achieve [FT]L by flying straight on, in your estimation?
Originally posted by Philosophía
But if you have to choose between landing your hardest hit and possibly winning by building up speed or landing a much lesser hit from your starting position and increasing the chance of failing, under which complex mind-jutsu would you choose the latter and not even thinking about doing the former?Btw, how much distance would he need to achieve [FT]L by flying straight on, in your estimation?
Those options wouldn't be available to me at the start. So I would choose hitting as hard as I can from where I stand. And I someone told me the options prior to battle then I would still choose they same out of fear of allowing my opponent to mobilize or activate his powers.
Huh, Recent issue. It seems DS was right. Saitama doesn't have any memory of the future and implies he might be not FTL since it mentions one of methods to do a time travel is achieving FTL, IOW Saitama needed to learn time travel gimmick from Garou suggests he couldn't achieve it under his own powers
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see the point
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Huh, Recent issue. It seems DS was right. Saitama doesn't have any memory of the future and implies he might be not FTL since it mentions one of methods to do a time travel is achieving FTL, IOW Saitama needed to learn time travel gimmick from Garou suggests he couldn't achieve it under his own powers
Oh? I was right? Fancy that.
