You spelled 'credentials' wrong.
Originally posted by h1a8
The gun feat where Superman was calculating in the femptoseconds.
Considering we are talking about your credentials now, the fact you kept spelling femtoseconds wrong - despite your supposed mathematical background - speaks volumes about the quality of your background.
Originally posted by Classic NEStheir merger was a side effect of the timeline consolidating, because apparently two saitamas cannot occupy the same space at the same time (saitama doesn't know the fusion dance, so this MUST be what happened).
There are 2 Saitama though and they merged. The amped one wasn't erased from existence.
but there is no reason to think that naked / unlocked saitama is doing anything at all for current saitama's power or memory at this point. as far as we know right now, current saitama has absolutely NO memory of anything that happened..... because like i keep saying- from HIS pov it DIDN'T happen. the recent chapter basically retconned the entire fight into a "what if".
Originally posted by Smurph
I agree. Credibility is important.On a comic book forum, how much credibility would you assign to a person who doesn't read comics?
Depends on what they know of the feats in question. Whether they read the entire story is irrelevant to KNOWING THE FEAT.
Carver and many others knows about a lot of feats without actually having read the book (including you too).
You knowing a well known feat doesn't take away your credibility of arguing that particular feat just because you didn't read the entire comic that the feat occurred in.
Originally posted by h1a8
Saitama still has the ability. He didn't lose it.
Prove it. Am sure he has other occasions, right?
Originally posted by Classic NES
His emotions boosted him to that level. It doesn't go away if he calms down lol.
Originally posted by h1a8
When you time travel the traveler doesn't forget events. Even then, his level went up and never came back down. He's the original traveler.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
their merger was a side effect of the timeline consolidating, because apparently two saitamas cannot occupy the same space at the same time (saitama doesn't know the fusion dance, so this MUST be what happened).but there is no reason to think that naked / unlocked saitama is doing anything at all for current saitama's power or memory at this point. as far as we know right now, current saitama has absolutely NO memory of anything that happened..... because like i keep saying- from HIS pov it DIDN'T happen.
The two timelines didn't merge. Saitama left an alternate Timeline using a technique Garou taught him. The only artifacts from that alt timeline were Saitama himself and Geno's core which survived when he emerged. The alt Saitama survived too but merely merged with his current self. Now, the core that he brought back retained all the data so why would we assume Saitama didn't retain anything when he was able to bring whatever he carried with him and himself intact? Simply because of the merger?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
their merger was a side effect of the timeline consolidating, because apparently two saitamas cannot occupy the same space at the same time (saitama doesn't know the fusion dance, so this MUST be what happened).but there is no reason to think that naked / unlocked saitama is doing anything at all for current saitama's power or memory at this point. as far as we know right now, current saitama has absolutely NO memory of anything that happened..... because like i keep saying- from HIS pov it DIDN'T happen. the recent chapter basically retconned the entire fight into a "what if".
His memory is irrelevant to his level.
Saitama never knew his level since the beginning when he was one shorting everyone.
The current Saitama is the Saitama that came from the future with a higher level.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85He traveled from the present to the past.
Prove it. Am sure he has other occasions, right?But it never happened, so you are mistakenly assuming it goes up then down. When in actual fact, it just never went up.
Yet, he did forget. He didn't travel as such, it just never happened. Just like Genos never died.
Originally posted by Classic NESbecause like i keep saying- as of right now, all the information tells us that saitama has NO memory of his fight with garou, because from his pov the fight DIDN'T happen in the first place. as of right now we have literally NO reason to believe that the merger with his unlocked self is doing anything at all for his power or memory.
The two timelines didn't merge. Saitama left an alternate Timeline using a technique Garou taught him. The only artifacts from that alt timeline were Saitama himself and Geno's core which survived when he emerged. The alt Saitama survived too but merely merged with his current self. Now, the core that he brought back retained all the data so why would we assume Saitama didn't retain anything when he was able to bring whatever he carried with him and himself intact? Simply because of the merger?
i'm sure genos's core will be used as a big plot device in the future (maybe it will help "push" saitama back into that mindset again one day). but we can only go by what we've been told up to now.....and up to now, their fight was retconned into a "what if". it never happened from saitama's pov.
Originally posted by Classic NES
The two timelines didn't merge. Saitama left an alternate Timeline using a technique Garou taught him. The only artifacts from that alt timeline were Saitama himself and Geno's core which survived when he emerged. The alt Saitama survived too but merely merged with his current self. Now, the core that he brought back retained all the data so why would we assume Saitama didn't retain anything when he was able to bring whatever he carried with him and himself intact? Simply because of the merger?
Because....it was literally said that he didn't retain it?
Originally posted by Classic NES
Too bad the Saitama from lo appeared in that timeline. So, it did happen.
No different to when Flash creates his timeclones. Moreover, to add another layer, it's from a future that could have happend:
Originally posted by h1a8Got it. What about arguing what a character would and would not do?
Depends on what they know of the feats in question. Whether they read the entire story is irrelevant to KNOWING THE FEAT.
Carver and many others knows about a lot of feats without actually having read the book (including you too).You knowing a well known feat doesn't take away your credibility of arguing that particular feat just because you didn't read the entire comic that the feat occurred in.
Does the person who has not read any comics have more or less credibility than the person who has?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
because like i keep saying- as of right now, all the information tells us that saitama has NO memory of his fight with garou, because from his pov the fight DIDN'T happen in the first place. as of right now we have literally NO reason to believe that the merger with his unlocked self is doing anything at all for his power or memory.i'm sure genos's core will be used as a big plot device in the future (maybe it will help "push" saitama back into that mindset again one day). but we can only go by what we've been told up to now.....and up to now, their fight was retconned into a "what if". it never happened from saitama's pov.
So, if in your opinion Genos core could reawaken his memories and boost him back to that level doesn't that just prove that he still has those abilities inside? Because that's what I'm arguing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because....it was literally said that he didn't retain it?Then disappeared.
No different to when Flash creates his timeclones. Moreover, to add another layer, it's from a future that could have happend:
His forgetting doesn't prove it was retconned. It just means he doesn't remember and Flashes time clones aren't the same. Also, post the eigo ban so other posters can understand.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
because like i keep saying- as of right now, all the information tells us that saitama has NO memory of his fight with garou, because from his pov the fight DIDN'T happen in the first place. as of right now we have literally NO reason to believe that the merger with his unlocked self is doing anything at all for his power or memory.i'm sure genos's core will be used as a big plot device in the future (maybe it will help "push" saitama back into that mindset again one day). but we can only go by what we've been told up to now.....and up to now, their fight was retconned into a "what if". it never happened from saitama's pov.
Originally posted by Classic NESi never argued that saitama couldn't potentially reach those levels again under the right circumstances. in fact i said the exact opposite-
So, if in your opinion Genos core could reawaken his memories and boost him back to that level doesn't that just prove that he still has those abilities inside? Because that's what I'm arguing.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so even though saitama could still reach those levels again (in theory), he has NO clue how to do it.... because he never did.
what i'm saying is that current saitama doesnt just instantly know how to reach those levels again..... because he never did in the first place. his fight with garou was retconned.
Originally posted by Smurph
Got it. What about arguing what a character would and would not do?Does the person who has not read any comics have more or less credibility than the person who has?
As far as how they fight?
Then just knowing and reading all the fights will give you credibility for that? But how they speak or joke or operate outside of battle then yes one would need to read the entire books containing them
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i never argued that saitama couldn't potentially reach those levels again under the right circumstances. in fact i said the exact opposite-what i'm saying is that current saitama doesnt just instantly know how to reach those levels again..... because he never did in the first place. his fight with garou was retconned.
Ok, fair enough I agree.