Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet

Originally posted by Galan007
Potentially? Sure.

But it's hard to say how much consideration the merger warrants with any kind of confidence, because we simply don't know one way or the other right now. As of the most recent chapter, however, there was still no implication that the merger had any real effect on mainstream Saitama at all(that he is currently aware of, at least.) He just seems to be back to his chap.163-164 self.

I guess we just need more info. /shrug

Is there any difference between canon Awakened Garou and canon Saitama given that the former never merged with his alternate self but the latter clearly did?

I have already tried to answer my reading of your question to the best of my ability. I suppose someone else will have to try and answer it now. 👆

^I'd like to think it's a yes/no question. But I'm ok with choosing not to push you any further. Other posters can give their takes.

Been drinking [heavily] so how you phrased the question just wasn't clicking. 👆

Anyway, they're "different" in the sense that one is effectively a fusion of a mainstream + an alternate character, and the other is not... So I guess the answer to your question is "yes"..? But I feel like you already knew that.

Though like I've said a few times: at this point it's hard to say how much consideration said merger warrants in discussions with any kind of certainty(which was another portion of your initial question.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Been drinking [heavily] so how you phrased the question just wasn't clicking. 👆

Anyway, they're "different" in the sense that one is effectively a fusion of a mainstream + an alternate character, and the other is not... So I guess the answer to your question is "yes"..? But I feel like you already knew that.

Though like I've said a few times: at this point it's hard to say how much consideration said merger warrants in discussions with any kind of certainty(which was another portion of your initial question.)

what you drinking galanchan

Jack with ice cubes. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Been drinking [heavily] so how you phrased the question just wasn't clicking. 👆

Anyway, they're "different" in the sense that one is effectively a fusion of a mainstream + an alternate character, and the other is not... So I guess the answer to your question is "yes"..? But I feel like you already knew that.

Though like I've said a few times: at this point it's hard to say how much consideration said merger warrants in discussions with any kind of certainty(which was another portion of your initial question.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Jack with ice cubes. 👆

I'm only 6 beers in atm. Albeit, I didn't eat breakfast, lunch or dinner.

Whether or not I think I'm being cogent, any posts from me right now can be disregarded. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Jack with ice cubes. 👆

im a vodka and seltzer drinker myself

with occasional wine

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

But he doesn't have the emotional impetus to repeat his feats.

He doesn't need it. He just needs the memory this time around.

Originally posted by Classic NES
He doesn't need it. He just needs the memory this time around.

Which he doesn't have. So moot.

Saitama always held back though. He rarely ever used a serious punch anyway.

The only way to say for sure he's not at those levels is to see him when he's not actually holding back.

Did a serious punch fail to one shot someone in later chapters?
Was he outsped against his will?

My take is that the merger was physical (mainstream Saitama is physically combined with alt Saitama) because the core is physical.
That means Saitama will have access to the higher levels IF PUSHED (he is getting his ass beat or is on the verge if getting koed or killed for example).
Death of Genos is not needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which he doesn't have. So moot.

For now, it's unknown if those memories are permanently gone and the point was he needs to just remember he doesn't need to ramp up to those levels like before because the condition isn't the same.

He needs to remember for his emotions to ramp back up. No memories, no emotions, not the same levels.

it's been a pleasure watching darksaint debate

the best in the business

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He needs to remember for his emotions to ramp back up. No memories, no emotions, not the same levels.

He doesn't need his emotions to ramp back up is my argument. He's not starting from 0 like he was the first time. Just the memories.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He needs to remember for his emotions to ramp back up. No memories, no emotions, not the same levels.

That's your theory (which makes less sense than the alternative).
Once a level is unlocked then it is always accessible.
Alt Saitama is still a physical entity inside the body of past Saitama.
All it takes is for Saitama to get serious or use MORE of his might than he normally does (he holds back).

Pretend I unlocked your strength where you can now lift 1 ton if you exerted all your might.
But you will never use that type of strength because you always hold back (you always fight insects).
Saitama doesn't know how strong he has become and will continue to hold back until pressed (then he will find out)

Saitama cannot experience a situation where he would struggle strength-wise, since he literally lacks a strength limiter. If, for some reason, the Sentry proved stronger than the strongest foe Saitama has faced thus far (be it God-Garou, or Boros if for some reason Saitama not remembering the former reduces his strength to pre-Io levels), his strength would simply increase to a level that effortlessly surpasses Sentry's. Saitama's physical potential is limitless, he automatically rises to any occasion.

Originally posted by Classic NES
He doesn't need his emotions to ramp back up is my argument. He's not starting from 0 like he was the first time. Just the memories.

Prove it. Simple, right?

Originally posted by h1a8
That's your theory (which makes less sense than the alternative).
Once a level is unlocked then it is always accessible.
Alt Saitama is still a physical entity inside the body of past Saitama.
All it takes is for Saitama to get serious or use MORE of his might than he normally does (he holds back).

Pretend I unlocked your strength where you can now lift 1 ton if you exerted all your might.
But you will never use that type of strength because you always hold back (you always fight insects).
Saitama doesn't know how strong he has become and will continue to hold back until pressed (then he will find out)

No, it needs the right conditions. A simple analogy is WBH and the various different Hulk incarnations. If a thread says Savage, we don't say he ramps up to WBH levels because he's in a fight.

Originally posted by Magnon
Saitama cannot experience a situation where he would struggle strength-wise, since he literally lacks a strength limiter. If, for some reason, the Sentry proved stronger than the strongest foe Saitama has faced thus far (be it God-Garou, or Boros if for some reason Saitama not remembering the former reduces his strength to pre-Io levels), his strength would simply increase to a level that effortlessly surpasses Sentry's. Saitama's physical potential is limitless, he automatically rises to any occasion.

Not true. He has his low showings.

Originally posted by Magnon
Saitama cannot experience a situation where he would struggle strength-wise, since he literally lacks a strength limiter. If, for some reason, the Sentry proved stronger than the strongest foe Saitama has faced thus far (be it God-Garou, or Boros if for some reason Saitama not remembering the former reduces his strength to pre-Io levels), his strength would simply increase to a level that effortlessly surpasses Sentry's. Saitama's physical potential is limitless, he automatically rises to any occasion.

Sounds like a job for Superman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Prove it. Simple, right?

A simple process of elimination. We know artifacts from time travel weren't erased from existence e.g. Geno's core and alt Saitama. So, it's simple to conclude they still exist.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

No, it needs the right conditions. A simple analogy is WBH and the various different Hulk incarnations. If a thread says Savage, we don't say he ramps up to WBH levels because he's in a fight.

Nonsensical, if I make a thread with Goku are we gonna assume it's only base and not ssj?