Originally posted by Smurph
She's saying politicization as in small-p political.As in, you are all talking about trends in the comic industry as a matter of manga vs comics and making it this weird nerdy partisan issue, when a lot of it has dick all to do with manga.
The "woke" complaints are another example of the same thing.
Again how? I simply stated that digital distribution and price point is better for nanga. How on earth is that " woke"? Unless you're implying there's an ulterior motive when bringing up sales of comics which would be weird and nerdy on your part not mine.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Again how is comics vs manga with respects to sales politicization?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
The threads premise is politicized as if the success of the comic industry (or lack thereof) is a sign of mangas dominance. It's not.
Small p politicization. Just an unnecessarily and weirdly divisive approach to the subject question.
Originally posted by Smurph
Small p politicization. Just an unnecessarily and weirdly divisive approach to the subject question.
How is it unneccessary? North American Comics and Manga are two of the biggest sectors in sequential art. Within North America manga has gained alot of traction, why is asking why that is "weird" or divisive. Everyone who posted here is a connoisseur of both there's no real bashing, well not on my part. Seems like some comic fans are being weirdly sensitive if anything.
Originally posted by Classic NESBecause comics success isn't mangas failure, or vice versa? As 2021 demonstrated, both sectors can grow or shrink independently. Seems obvious that the success of manga is going to be shaped to much greater degree by traction of anime in North America than it is by the growth or decline of comics. The flip side is obviously true with respect to comics and MCU/DCEU etc.
How is it unneccessary? North American Comics and Manga are two of the biggest sectors in sequential art. Within North America manga has gained alot of traction, why is asking why that is "weird" or divisive. Everyone who posted here is a connoisseur of both there's no real bashing, well not on my part. Seems like some comic fans are being weirdly sensitive if anything.
Originally posted by Smurph
Because comics success isn't mangas failure, or vice versa? As 2021 demonstrated, both sectors can grow or shrink independently. Seems obvious that the success of manga is going to be shaped to much greater degree by traction of anime in North America than it is by the growth or decline of comics. The flip side is obviously true with respect to comics and MCU/DCEU etc.
That's nice but nobody haa said anything about the success of one being contingent on the failure of the other. That's a strawman. The argument is manga is dominant, which it is and what practices are making it so versus comic books if there is a difference. That is the argument.
I think there's a miscommunication here.
When someone says something is politicised, they aren't saying actual politicians (i.e. government) are involved.
Another term would be 'tribal'. As in, this comic/manga 'issue' has become extremely tribal - people are turning it into some kind of competition and everything is black/white, with no grey in between.
'Manga is pwning comics', as if they're two sports teams in opposition to each other.
Hence, the use of the term 'politisation', or 'politicising'. Maybe a better term is tribal.
But in actuality, it's not so black and white. Disney, after all, are partnering with Kodansha to produce a new Tokyo Revengers film, for example. Disney, who own Marvel.
Edit: I am wrong, Disney are merely licensing a new Tokyo Revengers season. The actual film is via Warner Bros - who own DC.
Originally posted by Classic NESYou don't understand your own argument. Dominance only exists in the context of direct competition.
That's nice but nobody haa said anything about the success of one being contingent on the failure of the other. That's a strawman. The argument is manga is dominant, which it is and what practices are making it so versus comic books if there is a difference. That is the argument.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think there's a miscommunication here.When someone says something is politicised, they aren't saying actual politicians (i.e. government) are involved.
Another term would be 'tribal'. As in, this comic/manga 'issue' has become extremely tribal - people are turning it into some kind of competition and everything is black/white, with no grey in between.
'Manga is pwning comics', as if they're two sports teams in opposition to each other.
Hence, the use of the term 'politisation', or 'politicising'. Maybe a better term is tribal.
But in actuality, it's not so black and white. Disney, after all, are partnering with Kodansha to produce a new Tokyo Revengers film, for example. Disney, who own Marvel.
Well, there is competition between the two sectors since they both represent two parts of the same industry. But, comparing doesn't mean you're picking a side. Just an observation, I mean everyone here is a comic fan for the most part. Regardless of how successful manga has been in North America.