Originally posted by Classic NES
How is that different from comics? I started reading X-Men in 91 it's still going on now. Versus One Piece which is about to end and has only been serialized for 20 years? You seem to have a predisposition and bias for comics which is probably why you don't get it. Manga like Berserk, Grappler Baki and Helsing garner fans because they offer stories that NA comics don't.
never seen baki
hellsing is just wannabe modern version of the crow or spawn
berserk is one of the all time greats nothing bad to say here
one piece problem is it progress too slow, every chapter is filled with fillers
Originally posted by Classic NES
Out of touch about what though? Manga pwns comics.
If he was talking about manhawa he may have had a point. I happen to like manhawa, but it is all ridiculously generic formulaic tripe. All of it! It's like " we are Murim, we are all assholes to the MC, the MC is so weak we all spit on him, oh the
MC just got a thing now he's invincible. Let's continue to laugh at the PC as he kills all of us."
Basically, One Punch Man is making fun of normal everyday Manhwa writing.
Yujiro Hanma is the anti Manhwa protagonist.
The Breaker's best point was having all the Manhwa tropes, yet Shi-Woon was still kind of a loser. Man I miss Goomoonryong.
Originally posted by MrMind
why talk shit about comic book in comic book forumit's like people who don't like basketball go to nba forum and say nba sucks
doesn't make sense
Just criticizing their business model. I like comics alot otherwise I wouldn't be here for so long. I still buy floppys too when I can.
Besides, are they getting bodied? We've seen data that says comic sales are up, Marvel is an entertainment juggernaut with Mouse money behind it, DC and WB can afford to can a multimillion dollar film on a whim....
But I guess Comicvine is doing more anime Vs threads, so that's going for them, I suppose.
Originally posted by MrMindDC and Marvel comic books are shit and it has nothing to do with being woke now; they've always been shit and people are only just now realizing how shit they are. We should have listened to Garth Ennis but we hated him because he told the truth:
manga being more popular doesn't make senseyou telling me thor or superman's best stories can't even compete to one piece or naruto？
come on
anime like jujutsu kaisen or my hero academia wouldn't receive such high reception if it's not from japan, marvel and dc regular ongoings have better story telling and dialogue
"I find most superhero stories completely meaningless," Ennis said. "Which is not to say I don’t think there’s potential for the genre – Alan Moore and Warren Ellis have both done interesting work with the notion of what it might be like to be and think beyond human, see Miracleman, Watchmen and Supergod. But so long as the industry is geared towards fulfilling audience demand – ie, for the same brightly coloured characters doing the same thing forever – you’re never going to see any real growth. The stories can’t end, so they’ll never mean anything."
It is no wonder readers much prefer manga these days given that they are stories plotted out by usually a single person or a small group with characters that are allowed to actually change and have their own character arcs with central themes binding them together and without having to shoehorn stupid crossover events where you have to read eight different titles to get the full stupid story. The most popular manga still aren't usually the best examples of the medium (Demon Slayer is very average imo) but it's still far easier to get into and much more coherent than trying to get into whatever random capeshit series you can mention.
DC and Marvel have some great stories that can rival literature (not Thor though) and Superman in particular is just about my favorite character ever, and the best thing that could happen to him is for DC to be nuked from orbit and for him to enter the public domain. Same with any of the iconic heroes from these companies. They should belong to the people.
Originally posted by NemeBro
DC and Marvel comic books are shit and it has nothing to do with being woke now; they've always been shit and people are only just now realizing how shit they are. We should have listened to Garth Ennis but we hated him because he told the truth:"I find most superhero stories completely meaningless," Ennis said. "Which is not to say I don’t think there’s potential for the genre – Alan Moore and Warren Ellis have both done interesting work with the notion of what it might be like to be and think beyond human, see Miracleman, Watchmen and Supergod. But so long as the industry is geared towards fulfilling audience demand – ie, for the same brightly coloured characters doing the same thing forever – you’re never going to see any real growth. The stories can’t end, so they’ll never mean anything."
It is no wonder readers much prefer manga these days given that they are stories plotted out by usually a single person or a small group with characters that are allowed to actually change and have their own character arcs with central themes binding them together and without having to shoehorn stupid crossover events where you have to read eight different titles to get the full stupid story. The most popular manga still aren't usually the best examples of the medium (Demon Slayer is very average imo) but it's still far easier to get into and much more coherent than trying to get into whatever random capeshit series you can mention.
DC and Marvel have some great stories that can rival literature (not Thor though) and Superman in particular is just about my favorite character ever, and the best thing that could happen to him is for DC to be nuked from orbit and for him to enter the public domain. Same with any of the iconic heroes from these companies. They should belong to the people.
The few manga crossovers are way better too, because you don't even need to know the source material most times. That One Piece/Dragon Ball crossover was awesome, and had nothing to do with power levels or fighting, it was its own thing.
Originally posted by NemeBro
DC and Marvel comic books are shit and it has nothing to do with being woke now; they've always been shit and people are only just now realizing how shit they are. We should have listened to Garth Ennis but we hated him because he told the truth:"I find most superhero stories completely meaningless," Ennis said. "Which is not to say I don’t think there’s potential for the genre – Alan Moore and Warren Ellis have both done interesting work with the notion of what it might be like to be and think beyond human, see Miracleman, Watchmen and Supergod. But so long as the industry is geared towards fulfilling audience demand – ie, for the same brightly coloured characters doing the same thing forever – you’re never going to see any real growth. The stories can’t end, so they’ll never mean anything."
It is no wonder readers much prefer manga these days given that they are stories plotted out by usually a single person or a small group with characters that are allowed to actually change and have their own character arcs with central themes binding them together and without having to shoehorn stupid crossover events where you have to read eight different titles to get the full stupid story. The most popular manga still aren't usually the best examples of the medium (Demon Slayer is very average imo) but it's still far easier to get into and much more coherent than trying to get into whatever random capeshit series you can mention.
DC and Marvel have some great stories that can rival literature (not Thor though) and Superman in particular is just about my favorite character ever, and the best thing that could happen to him is for DC to be nuked from orbit and for him to enter the public domain. Same with any of the iconic heroes from these companies. They should belong to the people.
People like Ennis and Moore are well-known for their disdain, and how far their heads are shoved up their own asses. They're the last people I'd trust the opinion of when it comes to the quality of comics.