Silver Surfer Vs Superman 2022 edition.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's why Zod (who was Superman level with two suns) beat the shit out of Kyle without even exerting himself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because? Give the reason why it's not a supernova.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it's a unit of solar mass. A simple Google search will tell you that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_mass

Stellar mass can be used to generically refer to the mass of a star, but it's not a unit, the solar mass is.

For instance, "Proxima Centauri has a stellar mass of 0.125 solar masses."

Solar mass is a formal term and refers to the mass-unit corresponding to the Sun. Stellar mass is an informal term used to refer to the mass of the star. But this is clearly not how it's used in this context.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's it vague?

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's it a real supernova when it never collapsed into either a white dwarf or a black hole?

Originally posted by abhilegend
A human sized object can't take even a minuscule amount of a supernova explosion.

Wait, so Surtur is magical and vague, but Black Adam isn't?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, so Surtur is magical and vague, but Black Adam isn't?

Statements are not replacements for actual feats.

Originally posted by Astner
I'm not saying Superman couldn't defeat Kyle, I'm saying that he doesn't have the same powers and therefore can't accomplish the same feats.

So why can't Superman defeat Surfer likewise? Kyle is of course more powerful than Surfer.

Because it's not a real star, it's a building-sized demon that supposedly undergoes fusion.

Its a star because the comic said its a star. You don't get to decide what's real or not in a fictional universe.

That's not even what your link says....

Stellar mass can be used to generically refer to the mass of a star, but it's not a unit, the solar mass is.

For instance, "Proxima Centauri has a stellar mass of 0.125 solar masses."

Solar mass is a formal term and refers to the mass-unit corresponding to the Sun. Stellar mass is an informal term used to refer to the mass of the star. But this is clearly not how it's used in this context.

What's it referring to here?

Because it's a magical demon and not a star, and because it's all analogy and guesswork.

Its a magical demon who's a star. No analogy or guesswork required. The comic specifically states its a star, so it's a star.

Maybe it was a something closer to a Type I supernova? After all it was artifically generated by Braniac.

😂

Of course.

Either way, Surfer surfs on them and Supes get BTFO.

So you can't produce a single scan of Surfer actually taking a supernova head on. Superman actually absorbed the total energy of a hypernova.

Cry about it.

Originally posted by Astner
They both are. But unless there's explict evidence that makes it clear that we're dealing with a planet-level attack or above it can be shrugged off as artistic licence. Statements are replacements for actual feats.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, so Surtur is magical and vague, but Black Adam isn't?

So the arguments in this thread from the Surfer side as a recap.

GLs are more powerful than Surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"Surfer surfs on Supernovas".

*****, please.

A living galaxy throws a group of GLs through its supermassive black hole which swallows multiple planets. Bonus, its written by the same writer who had Surfer repeatedly struggle against black hole (Steve Englehart). Green Lantern Corps 217/218.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/qNFkMSc
A rookie GL saves himself and his entire planet in a black hole for years. Green Lantern New Corps 2.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/pjcy60S
A rookie lantern tanks a supernova but is killed by the resultant black hole. Green Lantern Corps Recharge 1.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/pFqJfG4
Soranik Natu survives a supernova and a black hole. GLC recharge 1
https://postimg.cc/gallery/JsF0TyB
Isamot and Vath survive a black hole and a supernova. GLC recharge 2.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/JrW4wZ7
Guy Gardner goes through a black hole.
https://postimg.cc/KKthzRJp
A group of lanterns go through a supermassive black hole which destroys entire multiverse at 20% power level and down. Final Crisis 5/6/7.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/XBbHkVb
Several Lanterns including SInestro , Simon Baz and B'dg survive within chamber of shadows which is inside a black hole. Green Lantern v5 18
https://postimg.cc/gallery/3hCrp1H
Jessica Cruz survive a black hole and Simon Baz pulls her out of the black hole. Green Lanterns 36.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/ZSKqkRC

Superman literally oneshots even the best GLs.

Assnerd :

*GL feats aren't allowed*

*Surfer surfs Supernovas*

Well, Valor who's less powerful than Superman oneshots characters who actually drain supernovas.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mind you, even Valor who Superman beat black and blue oneshotted Unimaginable who literally causes suns to go supernova and drains them to gain his power.

Unimaginable caused a sun to go supernova and drained its energy just two issues ago.

Confirmed in its profile entry.

*Does not counts*

*Surfer surfs Supernovas*

Multiple examples of Superman tanking a supernova, hypernova...

Assnerd:

*None of those are real*

*Surfer surfs Supernovas *

This is the entire thread.

It’s going to be hard for Superman to continue to operate at full capacity against Surfer’s versatility. One such tactic Surfer has is solar draining blast that would constantly de-powers Clark paired with time stoppage speed is 10/10 sure win .

Draining blast … Hulks Gamma rad is being ebb here to turn him to Banner.

Time stoppage speed.

Surfer 10/10 FTW

Originally posted by Ambient
It’s going to be hard for Superman to continue to operate at full capacity against Surfer’s versatility. One such tactic Surfer has is solar draining blast that would constantly de-powers Clark paired with time stoppage speed is 10/10 sure win .

Draining blast … Hulks Gamma rad is being ebb here to turn him to Banner.

Time stoppage speed.

Surfer 10/10 FTW

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRZgmP3V/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1tHd3grP/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Kj8HkZ0T/image.jpg

He's astronomically more powerful than Surfer, he can reignite Earth's sun under his own power for Months, Surfer almost exploded draining a small solar flare from it.

https://i.postimg.cc/2jPTYSrt/image.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/fTmCRQbR/image.jpg

While Superman powers an extinguished sun back to full using his own power.

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-guidebook-2020/chapters/1/16.jpg
https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-guidebook-2020/chapters/1/19.jpg
https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/manga/dark-nights-death-metal-guidebook-2020/chapters/1/07.jpg

Surfer would explode trying to drain Superman is more likely than anything happen to Superman.

Superbly ???? Thought we are debating Suoerman Abhi.

Ever hear of character growth? Course you are? You see that happening to super man right, that also happens to Surfer .

Like this; Containing to 2 universal worth of energy and controlling it.
Current by the way as opposed to one posted over 2 decades ago.

Super solar cells gets depleted .

Originally posted by -Pr-
There isn't enough time in the day to explain why that's dumb.

Originally posted by Ambient
Superbly ???? Thought we are debating Suoerman Abhi.

Ever hear of character growth? Course you are? You see that happening to super man right, that also happens to Surfer .

Like this; Containing to 2 universal worth of energy and controlling it.
Current by the way as opposed to one posted over 2 decades ago.

Super solar cells gets depleted .

Of course Superboy is more powerful than Superman, yeah?

Yeah, Hal Jordan is even more durable than Surfer for absorbing the entire power of Oa, not just residue of it. Without his ring even.

Originally posted by ODG
True. Surfer could simply resort to tuning his Power Cosmic to match the Kryptonite radiation signature of Superman's universe. No need to transmute anything.

Yeah, that's gonna happen as much as pigs gonna fly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Yeah, that's gonna happen as much as pigs gonna fly.

Pigs do different tricks on KMC forums... but no less impressive...

No brick is beating Surfer. None.

Originally posted by carver9
No brick is beating Surfer. None.

Originally posted by carver9
No brick is beating Surfer. None.

does the same go for world breaker hulk too? you dumbass

Originally posted by Astner
Why would this even matter? They're two different characters. This is like saying that Superman should have telepathic abilities because he beat up a guy who beat up Martian Manhunter.

I showed you an instance of Superman getting knocked out by a star caused to go supernova. Unless you can point to an instance where Superman brushes off supernovae (like Surfer regularly does) then this point is forfeited.

What are you getting at?

Originally posted by Diesldude
It wasn’t star though, it was a sun eater the size of a nebula and there was also the entropy bomb and red sun radiation.

But we don't have to look that far. Because Supes was already knocked out by a supernova.

Originally posted by Astner

- Action Comics #867

Originally posted by MrMind
does the same go for world breaker hulk too? you dumbass

Originally posted by Astner
But that doesn't change the fact that the energy was equivalent to 50 Kepler supernovae, and quickly dispersing in alignment with the inverse square law.

But we don't have to look that far. Because Supes was already knocked out by a supernova.

PIS off? Yes. Easily.

You still haven't shown any feats where Surfer actually took on a supernova. Mind you he would've died in a supernova created by Goddess along with Thanos and pretty much every superhero on Earth had Warlock not stopped it.

Coincidentally a supernova would have killed everyone on marvel earth under Starlin. Including Thanos. Just like here.

http://i.imgur.com/8MlDsKc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RgUkI8R.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HAG66JQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eVXdz7m.jpg

Even though it was illusion created by Warlock, if he hadn't created it Goddess would've killed the whole universe with those exploding stars.

http://i.imgur.com/30uPDmt.jpg

In fact Surfer and pretty much every hero on Earth including Thor, Gladiator etc were killed by less than moon busting attacks.

https://i.postimg.cc/sX6gF0hP/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/gjxkGqVC/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8cxkcJwj/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Y2PCbZkM/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pXnX7CX8/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DwkyKG8N/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/x1vjjdm1/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/q7pJNdcX/image.jpg

Here when everyone is killed, Annihilus orders to destroy both moon and Earth.

Here, Thanos acknowledges that he didn't try to get the army of the dead or Annihilus would've destroyed the moon.

The attacks were not as powerful as before because Annihilus wanted to kill his enemies one by one as stated here.