Voidtry vs World Breaker Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
Stop trolling. Umar literally states she didn't die. Deal with it and move on.

Where does she state she doesn't die?

That's Strange escaping (which is why he doesn't die). Also, read Strange's words - NO ONE HERE IS GOING TO SURVIVE.

Clear as day.

Then Bruce says:

The magic here will resurrect. EVERYONE. Clear as day. Then he tells Strange to get them out. Hard to resurrect if they're not dead, no?

Your argument is as silly as saying 'well, we didn't see EVERY goblin die, so the ones we didn't see die survived '. Like, how do you prove that skeleton isn't Umar?

When did Hulk supposedly made this wish? Did he make it before or after Strange left?

I also think you're reading too much into this because Tyrannus wasn't fighting. Fing Fang didn't fight. These two actually left the Dark Dimension. If the wish was for them to fight and get resurrected, how TF did Tyrannus and Fing just up and leave?

https://ibb.co/2Zq0bmX

Originally posted by carver9
When did Hulk supposedly made this wish? Did he make it before or after Strange left?

Originally posted by carver9
I also think you're reading too much into this because Tyrannus wasn't fighting. Fing Fang didn't fight. These two actually left the Dark Dimension. If the wish was for them to fight and get resurrected, how TF did Tyrannus and Fing just up and leave?

https://ibb.co/2Zq0bmX

So? They still died. Amadeus wasn't fighting either. Cosimo wasn't fighting either. They still died and got resurrected - AND they managed to leave. Foom and Tyrannus et al are still supervillains, that's why he asked for Cosimo and Cho to be taken home because they didn't belong. He even tells Strange to take the kid and the woman home:

Are you now saying it WASN'T the Hulk's wish to fight and die? Even though we're told multiple times this was what he wanted, and he says he wanted them all to fight and die? Like, I don't know what you're trying to argue here, it seems like you're just throwing every argument and hoping something sticks.

Strange and Banner literally say everyone died. But just because you don't see Umar specifically burning, you say she didn't.

Read my post again:

In short, the World breaking feat wasn't due to pure strength, but was due to Hulk wishing that everyone with him would die as he fought them, because they were all monsters, trapped together. The Wishing Well granted this wish, by having the entire realm be destroyed every time he fought.

Sure, there is *some* strength involved. Hulk still cut loose. My argument is that it could have been Alfred, completely cutting loose with his old-man strength, fighting a planet full of Martha Wayne corpses, and the end result would have been the same - planetary destruction.

Edit: I know what your new argument is. You're trying to say that they shouldn't have been allowed to leave. But read your own scan again - Foom wanted to conquer the world - so the Wishing Well was granting him that wish.

Originally posted by carver9
I also think you're reading too much into this

Tagline for the KMC Vs forum?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Read my post - we never actually see when Hulk makes his wishes.

So? They still died. Amadeus wasn't fighting either. Cosimo wasn't fighting either. They still died and got resurrected - AND they managed to leave. Foom and Tyrannus et al are still supervillains, that's why he asked for Cosimo and Cho to be taken home because they didn't belong. He even tells Strange to take the kid and the woman home:

Are you now saying it WASN'T the Hulk's wish to fight and die? Even though we're told multiple times this was what he wanted, and he says he wanted them all to fight and die? Like, I don't know what you're trying to argue here, it seems like you're just throwing every argument and hoping something sticks.

Strange and Banner literally say everyone died. But just because you don't see Umar specifically burning, you say she didn't.

Read my post again:

Edit: I know what your new argument is. You're trying to say that they shouldn't have been allowed to leave. But read your own scan again - Foom wanted to conquer the world - so the Wishing Well was granting him that wish.

So Hulks wish was to fight, FIGHT and die but there were people there that didn't fight? Did he give specifics on who he wanted to fight, names?

If we didn't see when he made the wish, how are we to assume that he made the wish before or after the clash? Also, where was it stated that this pertains to only Hulk fighting?

Why is Strange talking about Hulks power here in the Dark Dimension? He's literally referencing Hulk not holding back and the destruction he caused in the Dark dimension...

https://ibb.co/89p0PrN

Tyrannus mentioning be saved Earth from the backlash of power...

https://ibb.co/s2xFLsx

Originally posted by carver9
So Hulks wish was to fight, FIGHT and die but there were people there that didn't fight? Did he give specifics on who he wanted to fight, names?

If we didn't see when he made the wish, how are we to assume that he made the wish before or after the clash? Also, where was it stated that this pertains to only Hulk fighting?

Why is Strange talking about Hulks power here in the Dark Dimension? He's literally referencing Hulk not holding back and the destruction he caused in the Dark dimension...

https://ibb.co/89p0PrN

Tyrannus mentioning be saved Earth from the backlash of power...

https://ibb.co/s2xFLsx

So have you moved on from Umar not dying or are you just going to keep reacting?

She didn't die. Your argument is just all over the place. If she would have died, she wouldn't have said YOU died, she would've said we.

Originally posted by carver9
She didn't die. Your argument is just all over the place. If she would have died, she wouldn't have said YOU died, she would've said we.

She said you because.....she was talking to Cho and Cosimo. That's all.

It's like me telling you 'Carver, you're human'. Does that automatically mean I'm not??? Wut.

Banner and Strange both said everyone died. Explain that.

*tumbleweed*

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She said you because.....she was talking to Cho and Cosimo. That's all.

It's like me telling you 'Carver, you're human'. Does that automatically mean I'm not??? Wut.

Banner and Strange both said everyone died. Explain that.

She should've said we and when Cho asked her if she brought them back from the dead, she states why she would waste time doing that. She can't bring someone from the dead if she is dead.

Also, why is Strange and Hulk primarily talking about strength here...

https://ibb.co/Y27y4pS

Just to be clear, you're saying Pak wrote Hulk busting the planet using magic and not strength?

Originally posted by carver9
She should've said we and when Cho asked her if she brought them back from the dead, she states why she would waste time doing that. She can't bring someone from the dead if she is dead.

Also, why is Strange and Hulk primarily talking about strength here...

https://ibb.co/Y27y4pS

Just to be clear, you're saying Pak wrote Hulk busting the planet using magic and not strength?

I'm saying it's both strength and magic. As I have said from the very start, which you'd know had you actually read my post.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm saying it's both strength and magic. As I have said from the very start, which you'd know had you actually read my post.

What factor did Magic have in the planet busting? Explain please because Strange specifically referenced Hulks strength on more than one occasion.

Originally posted by carver9
What factor did Magic have in the planet busting? Explain please because Strange specifically referenced Hulks strength on more than one occasion.

Undecided. Which is my entire point. Magic played an unspecified, unquantifiable amount in the feat. But it WAS a factor, which h1 needed to take into account when doing his maths.

Strange referencing strength doesn't mean anything.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They literally say everyone died, lol. I know you need your hand held as well, but come on.

Originally posted by ODG
Except Hulk and Betty didn't die when they clashed?

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Originally posted by ODG
Except Hulk and Betty didn't die when they clashed?

We clearly see them in the heart of the attack without a scratch while everyone else was melting. Dark is just reaching and it's irritating.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Undecided. Which is my entire point. Magic played an unspecified, unquantifiable amount in the feat. But it WAS a factor, which h1 needed to take into account when doing his maths.

Strange referencing strength doesn't mean anything.

Here it does because Strange was terrified of Hulk destroying Earth. Yes, it didn't happen right away but Strange mentioned if the Hulks kept fighting, Earth would be doomed.

Originally posted by carver9
We clearly see them in the heart of the attack without a scratch while everyone else was melting. Dark is just reaching and it's irritating.

Whereas I saw it as they did die. Everyone was burning and reforming.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Undecided. Which is my entire point. Magic played an unspecified, unquantifiable amount in the feat. But it WAS a factor, which h1 needed to take into account when doing his maths.

Strange referencing strength doesn't mean anything.