Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Indeed, comic inconsistency exists.However, we have two showings here:
1. Where he fights Betty in the DD, and the shockwaves from their hits melt amped beings and the DD.
2. Where he fights Betty, Rick and Jen on Earth, still believes he's in the DD, no mention is made of Betty (his equal) holding back, and Rick and Jen are insane with power. Oh and all four are amped (none of which you acknowledged).My argument is based purely on what we saw in comics. In the DD, he melted everything with Betty. On Earth, nothing of the sort happened, despite being massively more amped.
Literally by the same author, hell in the same comic.
So why is your collateral damage feat admissible, and the other completely ignored? It's not even like we have a wealth of other times Hulk went WBH and did anything similar.
You ignored my statement when I stated that Hulk became WBH when he seen Betty kiss Tyrannus. That triggered the mode. Before that he wasn't at WBH levels. Hulk only became WB upon serious emotional compromise.
WBH is more powerful than amped Hulk (thsts not in WB mode).
Lack of collateral damage isn't proof of maximum power.
Collateral damage is proof of minimum power.
Simple logic.
Glad you agree that fiction inconsistency happens (although it's not present here).
Originally posted by ODG
I honestly don't see a large variance in their relevant positions.
Which is kinda my point - there shouldn't be ANY variance.
Originally posted by h1a8
You ignored my statement when I stated that Hulk became WBH when he seen Betty kiss Tyrannus. That triggered the mode. Before that he wasn't at WBH levels. Hulk only became WB upon serious emotional compromise.
WBH is more powerful than amped Hulk (thsts not in WB mode).Lack of collateral damage isn't proof of maximum power.
Collateral damage is proof of minimum power.Simple logic.
Glad you agree that fiction inconsistency happens (although it's not present here).
He was on Earth after the kiss, bruh. Read the comic. THEN WBH got amped up.
Timeline is:
Dark Dimension - >kiss - >DD blows up ->goes to Earth ->gets massively amped ->nothing happens->depowers himself and everyone.
But ok, it's consistent, lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which is kinda my point - there shouldn't be ANY variance.He was on Earth after the kiss, bruh. Read the comic. THEN WBH got amped up.
Timeline is:
Dark Dimension - >kiss - >DD blows up ->goes to Earth ->gets massively amped ->nothing happens->depowers himself and everyone.But ok, it's consistent, lol.
Yes there should be. What artist draws the exact same picture twice to the nearest millimeter? Even in movies when time is frozen you see variances in position. This is fiction, not real life. Artist error.
Focus on the plot and writer's intent and not nitpick a artist drawn something a millimeter off. Geez. So if a writer explicitly states that time is frozen but artist draws picture ever so slightly off then phuck what the writer said?
Your are not understanding. Only very emotional things will trigger the WBH.
Hulk will not stay in WBH forever. He turns back normal.
For your reference. WBH is beyond millions of times more powerful than standard Hulk. That means WBH is astronomically more powerful than an amped Hulk too. Hulk always holds back (unless WB is triggered through some very emotional event).
Originally posted by h1a8Truth is WBH , WWH and other versions of Hulk likewise ARE AMPED VERSIONS OF HULK, no different than the other versions of Superman like ALL STAR and JL#25, PRE-CRISIS SILVER and BRONZE AGE.
Yes there should be. What artist draws the exact same picture twice to the nearest millimeter? Even in movies when time is frozen you see variances in position. This is fiction, not real life. Artist error.
Focus on the plot and writer's intent and not nitpick a artist drawn something a millimeter off. Geez. So if a writer explicitly states that time is frozen but artist draws picture ever so slightly off then phuck what the writer said?Your are not understanding. Only very emotional things will trigger the WBH.
Hulk will not stay in WBH forever. He turns back normal.For your reference. WBH is beyond millions of times more powerful than standard Hulk. That means WBH is astronomically more powerful than an amped Hulk too. Hulk always holds back (unless WB is triggered through some very emotional event).
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes there should be. What artist draws the exact same picture twice to the nearest millimeter? Even in movies when time is frozen you see variances in position. This is fiction, not real life. Artist error.
Focus on the plot and writer's intent and not nitpick a artist drawn something a millimeter off. Geez. So if a writer explicitly states that time is frozen but artist draws picture ever so slightly off then phuck what the writer said?Your are not understanding. Only very emotional things will trigger the WBH.
Hulk will not stay in WBH forever. He turns back normal.For your reference. WBH is beyond millions of times more powerful than standard Hulk. That means WBH is astronomically more powerful than an amped Hulk too. Hulk always holds back (unless WB is triggered through some very emotional event).
I literally said it was artist's error, lmao. Please pay attention.
So your new argument is that he was WBH for that single punch, and then afterwards he was calmed down, and we never see EBH at his height ever again.
Lol, ok.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How am I trolling?Do you agree with h1, then, that WBH was only present for that one punch, and then calmed down after that? Yes or no?
You're the one that keeps mentioning Earth exploding when it's pretty freaking obvious why the planet didn't turn to dust when Celestials, Hulk and other beings fight on it. It's not a fodder planet. It's like asking how was Lois able to stand beside Doomsday and Superman during their fight when overall YOU said they were fighting at super speed...
She didn't even get a scratch and she was right beside them.
Originally posted by carver9
You're the one that keeps mentioning Earth exploding when it's pretty freaking obvious why the planet didn't turn to dust when Celestials, Hulk and other beings fight on it. It's not a fodder planet. It's like asking how was Lois able to stand beside Doomsday and Superman during their fight when overall YOU said they were fighting at super speed...She didn't even get a scratch and she was right beside them.
Yes.....or no?
While answering that, remember this.
Unleashed Hulk. Lol, a Hulk that just said he was holding back that wishing well power (lmmfao), he's no longer holding back. He's going to let all of thar wishing well power loose.
Originally posted by carver9
While answering that, remember this.Unleashed Hulk. Lol, a Hulk that just said he was holding back that wishing well power (lmmfao), he's no longer holding back. He's going to let all of thar wishing well power loose.
Ooh nice scan, very nice.
Let's start with the times he wasn't holding back. You know, when he thought he was still in the Dark Dimension🙂
Then on top of that, people ALWAYS forget that the feat in the DD was ALSO Betty's. SHE didn't wish for an innocent free world to let loose in; she doesn't 'always hold back'. So how many times did she melt heralds (let's not go as high as heralds, lol. Let's start with street level humans).
Now do you see? Remember, your scan has WBH when he was still relatively human sized, i.e. unamped.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to ask again, what Heralds were around? Also, who said the ft didn't belong to Betty as well?
Rick and Jen. Strange (I believe he wasn't at his best, he's usually trans level so herald feels good).
I didn't say you said that. I said (read carefully) that even though she's never been said to hold back like Bruce has, even though she was amped beyond what she was in the DD, she didn't melt anyone.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rick and Jen. Strange (I believe he wasn't at his best, he's usually trans level so herald feels good).I didn't say you said that. I said (read carefully) that even though she's never been said to hold back like Bruce has, even though she was amped beyond what she was in the DD, she didn't melt anyone.
I already answered this. There was no one to melt and people didn't melt every time Hulk and Betty threw a punch. I thought you knew how comics work. There's plenty of examples of similar things happening everywhere. Superboy Prime tanking hits from the JLA/JSA but Superboy making him bleed with punches under the same writer on more than one occasion. Heck, Superboy endured punches from Prime moments before he destroyed the Phantom Zone.
Originally posted by carver9
I already answered this. There was no one to melt and people didn't melt every time Hulk and Betty threw a punch. I thought you knew how comics work. There's plenty of examples of similar things happening everywhere. Superboy Prime tanking hits from the JLA/JSA but Superboy making him bleed with punches under the same writer on more than one occasion. Heck, Superboy endured punches from Prime moments before he destroyed the Phantom Zone.
So he only melted heralds when the plot called for it. When Strange, Cho, Cosimo etc were around, nothing happened.
Got ya.