Who in marvel is powerful enough to beat COIE Anti Monitor

Started by MrMind11 pages

Who in marvel is powerful enough to beat COIE Anti Monitor

we are talking about anti-minitor that the peak of his power near the end of consuming the entire multiverse

Chaos King also consumed almost all multiverses (close to 98% of them IIRC), did he not? He seems the most comparable.

So Chaos Wars Hercules should a good choice.

If you allow for prep time, I'm sure Doom or Reed Richards would work something out. This kind of threat seems right up their wheelhouse.

I dont know what the Infinites can do, or the Beyonders... i guess they come closest to standing a chance. Chaos King might indeed come close too. Maybe someone like Abraxas.

I guess it would have to be a multiversal team effort.

At his baseline level, COIE AM was already "equal" to the original Monitor(who was a fully multiversal power.)

So when AM ultimately absorbed the anti-matter universe towards the end of COIE, he would have gained power equivalent to the infinite amount of positive-matter universes he overtook(minus the 5 that still remained), on top of the multiversal power he already possessed at base.

IOW: at his peak, AM would have wielded power roughly equivalent to two multiverses(so low-Megaversal power.)

So how did he get beat again? Superman punched him in the face?

Lol.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
So how did he get beat again? Superman punched him in the face?

Really hard.

Well, yeah. It basically is Superman punched AM in the face really hard

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, yeah. It basically is Superman punched AM in the face really hard
that was not peak AM. but even still a lot of plot-device crap had to happen before that to even make it possible.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
that was not peak AM. but even still a lot of plot-device crap had to happen before that to even make it possible.

Yeah, I know. But this is reply to "how did AM get beaten" part.
It just seems funny the asnwer basically happened to be "Superman punched AM in the face"

How most multiversal threats go down to be fair.

Originally posted by Glorificus
Chaos King also consumed almost all multiverses (close to 98% of them IIRC), did he not? He seems the most comparable.

So Chaos Wars Hercules should a good choice.

If you allow for prep time, I'm sure Doom or Reed Richards would work something out. This kind of threat seems right up their wheelhouse.


Chaos King only devoured a universe, not multiverse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Chaos King only devoured a universe, not multiverse.

here we go again...

Originally posted by Galan007
At his baseline level, COIE AM was already "equal" to the original Monitor(who was a fully multiversal power.)

So when AM ultimately absorbed the anti-matter universe towards the end of COIE, he would have gained power equivalent to the infinite amount of positive-matter universes he overtook(minus the 5 that still remained), on top of the multiversal power he already possessed at base.

IOW: at his peak, AM would have wielded power roughly equivalent to two multiverses(so low-Megaversal power.)

7 1/2 beers in but I thought as Anti-Monitor consumed universes, he weakened Monitor's power correspondingly in a zero-sum manner? Am I misremembering?

Originally posted by ODG
7 1/2 beers in but I thought as Anti-Monitor consumed universes, he weakened Monitor's power correspondingly in a zero-sum manner? Am I misremembering?
Was referring to their first battle. They fought to an absolute stalemate and were rendered comatose for billions of years afterward: "And so they began a war which lasted one million years. A war waged with equal power. A war in which there could be no victor..."

^ I guess my question was, where was it depicted in Crisis on Infinite Earths that the original Monitor was a fully multiversal power?

Monitor: "Understand that I am linked with ALL positive matter. It flows through me. Gives me power. But as the anti-matter destroys more and more, I weaken."

"All" positive matter = the original COIE multiverse.

^ Three questions then:

(i) Did you think that when the Monitors were linked to each universe, they possessed a universal scope power for each universe OR they simply drew power from each universe?

(ii) How many universes do you think existed during Crisis on Infinite Earths?

(iii) How powerful was Supergirl when she defeated Anti-Monitor single-handedly?

Originally posted by ODG
^ Three questions then:

[b](i) Did you think that when the Monitors were linked to each universe, they possessed a universal scope power for each universe OR they simply drew power from each universe?

(ii) How many universes do you think existed during Crisis on Infinite Earths?

(iii) How powerful was Supergirl when she defeated Anti-Monitor single-handedly? [/B]

1.) Per the original Monitor: "I am linked with ALL positive matter." What does being linked with(and powered by) "all" positive matter mean to you in the context of COIE?

2.) Infinite universes, as stated in the series itself(along with a bunch of other sources.)

3.) Extremely powerful, as pre-crisis Kryptonians tended to be(especially whilst bloodlusted/going all-out.) Anywho, I see what you're getting at here, and no, I don't think that instance really diminishes AM's overall status -- just like I don't think a character losing to SBP necessarily constitutes a "bad" showing for them(no matter who they are)... But that's just my opinion. /shrug

A follow-up question, if I may:

iv) how hard would you say she punched him? Really hard or Extremely hard?