Who in marvel is powerful enough to beat COIE Anti Monitor

Started by ODG11 pages

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Oh, BTW. I bumped this thread, it's actually you asked for it lol
Well yes, I did. Because I knew your hypocritical antics would catch up to you in a spectacular explosion of asininity.

But by all means, extol us all about multiversal+ Supergirl.

Even though you "rarely concern about these cosmic beings/never pay much attention to them." 😂

Originally posted by ODG
Well yes, I did. Because I knew your hypocritical antics would catch up to you in a spectacular explosion of asininity.

But by all means, extol us all about multiversal+ Supergirl.


Nah, you misunderstood. It's much funnier seeing your reactions here.

I mean, aside from a lot of unfriendly comments you made in these two threads. You seemingly contradict yourself is also somehing

For example:

Originally posted by Test123
Recently he got wrecked by the Terrifics so probably some mid tier Marvel team should be able to do it.

Originally posted by ODG
^ I mean... are we supposed to know how powerful Gold Beetle or Omega-Bam-Man are?

Originally posted by ODG
No different than someone trying to troll Anti-Monitor by focusing on him getting his a$$ beat by no-name D-listers Gold Beetle & Wam-Bam-Man:
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Anti-Monitor01.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Anti-Monitor02.jpg

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Nah, you misunderstood. It's much funnier seeing your reactions here.

I mean, aside from a lot of unfriendly comments you made in these two threads. You seemingly contradict yourself is also somehing

For example:

Contradict what? I was trying to give Anti-Monitor the benefit of the doubt back then.

Then you decided to act like questionable interpretations of current storylines should supercede the actual storyline of the actual character we're discussing in this thread... COIE Anti-Monitor. So I threw an even more recent storyline back at you to defuse such a witless tactic to focus you back towards the on-topic storyline... COIE Anti-Monitor.

Now you don't like that I did that. Whose fault was it in the first place?

I understand that when hypocrites like you keep twisting themselves around, they lose track of all conversation. Because good-faith discussion isn't what you're relying on anymore. No, it's b1tchmade prevarication.

You're better served focusing on my nastiness than acting like you have a leg to stand on. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Contradict what? I was trying to give Anti-Monitor the benefit of the doubt back then.

Then you decided to act like questionable interpretations of current storylines should supercede the actual storyline of the actual character we're discussing in this thread... COIE Anti-Monitor. So I threw an even more recent storyline back at you to defuse such a witless tactic to focus you back towards the on-topic storyline... COIE Anti-Monitor.

I understand that when hypocrites like you keep twisting themselves around, they lose track of all conversation. Because good-faith discussion isn't what you're relying on anymore. No, it's b1tchmade prevarication.

You're better served focusing on my nastiness than acting like you have a leg to stand on. 👆


So....as per you, we don't know how powerful these you called "D-list" here. So how does it fit to a low showing, as you can't even tell how powerful they are

as for the second paragraph. It also stemmed from your "taking an established history and power station" stance. I.E, in other multiple sources/established history make it clear COIE's Multiverse contains infinite universes(which you argued multiple pages in this thread)

As for the rest of the words. I can just say, have you ever felt that you're a bit delusional/self-projecting and rude?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So....as per you, we don't know how powerful these you called "D-list" here. So how does it fit to a low showing, as you can't even tell how powerful they are

as for the second paragraph. It also stemmed from your "taking an established history and power station" stance. I.E, in other multiple sources/established history make it clear COIE's Multiverse contains infinite universes(which you argued multiple pages in this thread)

Was replying to wrong post so big EDIT:

I agree we don't know how strong Gold Beetle and Wam-Bam-Man are. I, myself, pointed that out. At the same time, it was portrayed as utterly humiliating. So, really, let's not rely on the most recent portrayals of characters to reverse-inflate or reverse-deflate characters when we can just look at the actual storyline being discussed. This thread is about COIE Anti-Monitor.

Either way... if you want to keep COIE Anti-Monitor way up to the level of power you're campaigning for, you still have not addressed what that would mean for Supergirl.

Also, I apologize for being an antagonistic schmuck these last few pages over two threads.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
As for the rest of the words. I can just say, have you ever felt that you're a bit delusional/self-projecting and rude?
Rude? Definitely. Self-projecting? Disagree. I'm not trying to elevate Living Tribunal in the wake of all the developments with his character. I just feel that's what other people are doing with Darkseid or Anti-Monitor. Delusional? Nah. Drunk, yes. But drunk is different from delusional.

Originally posted by ODG

Also, I apologize for being an antagonistic schmuck these last few pages over two threads.

It's ok.
Back then, my problems are mainly about this. But now it seems you finally calm down.

Originally posted by ODG
But by all means, extol us all about multiversal+ Supergirl.

Anyone who makes this argument, or even tip-toes around it, is either an idiot or a troll.

The only incarnation of the Anti-Monitor that can be considered universal is the one that had absorbed the Anti-Matter Universe. The other incarnations were planet - star level, like the heroes he fought.

Originally posted by Astner
The Anti-Monitor was only ever powered by his own universe, and this was when he was at his most powerful.

- Crisis on Infinite Earths #10

Originally posted by Astner
Anyone who makes this argument, or even tip-toes around it, is either an idiot or a troll.

The only incarnation of the Anti-Monitor that can be considered universal is the one that had absorbed the Anti-Matter Universe. The other incarnations were planet - star level, like the heroes he fought.


Star planet level characters don't destroy entire universes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Star planet level characters don't destroy entire universes.

They can if they rely on technology to do so.

Originally posted by Astner
They can if they rely on technology to do so.

Anti Monitor never relied on technology to destroy universes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anti Monitor never relied on technology to destroy universes.

So what was the deal with the Anti-Matter Cannon that he built after the first Anti-Matter Wave was stopped?

Green Lantern is a joke because he relies on a ring to affect planets/continents

Iron Man isn't all that; he relies on a suit.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Green Lantern is a joke because he relies on a ring to affect planets/continents

Iron Man isn't all that; he relies on a suit.


We're not talking about that kind of technology, we're talking about a huge, non-portable machine.

Originally posted by Astner
We're not talking about that kind of technology, we're talking about a huge, non-portable machine.

Doesn't GL rely on the Central Power Battery? That does not seem super portable.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doesn't GL rely on the Central Power Battery? That does not seem super portable.

What's with these mental gymnastics? When the Anti-Matter Wave was stopped the Anti-Monitor had an Anti-Matter Canon built to destroy the remaining universes, but the Anti-Matter Cannon was destroyed before it could be used. It's not something he has access to.

If he could destroy universes on his own he wouldn't have built the cannon. Interpreting the Anti-Monitor at his normal level as star level is perfectly coherent with the narrative of the story.

Originally posted by Astner
So what was the deal with the Anti-Matter Cannon that he built after the first Anti-Matter Wave was stopped?

It was to breach the void where Monitor had hidden five remaining universes as Anti Monitor couldn't reach it.

Originally posted by Astner
What's with these mental gymnastics? When the Anti-Matter Wave was stopped the Anti-Monitor had an Anti-Matter Canon built to destroy the remaining universes, but the Anti-Matter Cannon was destroyed before it could be used. It's not something he has access to.

If he could destroy universes on his own he wouldn't have built the cannon. Interpreting the Anti-Monitor at his normal level as star level is perfectly coherent with the narrative of the story.


The Anti matter cannon never destroyed anything, it was being built by issue 7-8 and then Flash destroyed it.

Its sole purpose was to breach the void.

Originally posted by Astner
What's with these mental gymnastics? When the Anti-Matter Wave was stopped the Anti-Monitor had an Anti-Matter Canon built to destroy the remaining universes, but the Anti-Matter Cannon was destroyed before it could be used. It's not something he has access to.

If he could destroy universes on his own he wouldn't have built the cannon. Interpreting the Anti-Monitor at his normal level as star level is perfectly coherent with the narrative of the story.

he stalemated the monitor backed by the multiverse for a million year

star level my ass, even weakened he survived galaxy wiping attack no problem

Originally posted by Astner
What's with these mental gymnastics? When the Anti-Matter Wave was stopped the Anti-Monitor had an Anti-Matter Canon built to destroy the remaining universes, but the Anti-Matter Cannon was destroyed before it could be used. It's not something he has access to.

If he could destroy universes on his own he wouldn't have built the cannon. Interpreting the Anti-Monitor at his normal level as star level is perfectly coherent with the narrative of the story.

The Anti-Matter Cannon has more to do with the fact that Monitor moved the remaining universes and their entire timelines to a new dimension he created that Antimonitor couldnt get to and then were fortified against Anti-Matter by Monitors devices that were placed through eras of timespace to halt the Antimatter.

https://imgur.com/gallery/RM035RB