Who in marvel is powerful enough to beat COIE Anti Monitor

Originally posted by ODG
No, it isn't jobbing given a close reading of the story. His actual story shows that he got his sh1t kicked in by Supergirl, got pummeled by Qward Thunderers, had to absorb a sun, had to absorb superhero energies to manipulate the beginning of time, got punched out by Superman-2, etc.

Did Nekron get beat up by Supergirl? Or pummeled by Qward Thunderers? Or had to absorb a sun for his final fight? Or got punched out by Superman-2?

As for Nekron, well, he gets pummeled by a bunch of ghost Green Lanterns in his first appearances lol

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1: The actual story also shows he destroyed and absorbed at least thousands universes(we go easy here, and just use your interpretation).

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
2: Stalemates the Monitor who collects to all the positive matter universes in his base form

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
3: Destroys Pariah's universe while he was imprisoned.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
4: Absorbs his Anti-Matter Universe instantly

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
As for Nekron, well, he gets pummeled by a bunch of ghost Green Lanterns in his first appearances lol

Originally posted by ODG
Actually, he only ever absorbed the power of the positive matter universes that were sublimated to the antimatter universe when he enacted his gambit to travel back to the dawn of time. Show me where the Monitor absorbed the positive matter universes' power. That's... not impressive. So? Well, you want to ignore Nekron's magnum opus storyline of Blackest Night in favor of a brief appearance. No different than someone trying to troll Anti-Monitor by focusing on him getting his a$$ beat by no-name D-listers Gold Beetle & Wam-Bam-Man:
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Anti-Monitor01.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Anti-Monitor02.jpg

Here, it's stated the Monitor contains the energy of his realm
https://ibb.co/wwWzsnx

So, Supergirl can beat the shit out of someone who can destroy universes/instantly absorbs universes level energy being, right?

Huh...Again, irony here. For AM, we only focus the original COIE(whose Multiverse is also stated to contain infinite universes in the original version), but not Nekron

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So, multiple universes powers. right

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Here, it's stated the Monitor contains the energy of his realm
https://ibb.co/wwWzsnx

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So, Supergirl can beat the shit out of someone who can destroy universes/instantly absorbs universes level energy being, right?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Huh...Again, irony here. For AM, we only focus the original COIE(whose Multiverse is also stated to contain infinite universes in the original version), but not Nekron

Originally posted by ODG
Context. He exhausted all of the suffused antimatter universe's power just to travel to the dawn of time. That is why he had to wait for teh heroes to absorb their powers to manipulate the big bang. Enough with the conniving attitude. In that story, and that point in time, while joined with his brothers, yes. 35+ years removed from the context of the story we're actually discussing. But not the first time you've fled in terror from discussing the actual story. No. She can't. And she didn't. As Anti-Monitor did not absorb the antimatter universe while getting his a$$ kicked. He just ran away. Took awhile to even regain a body. I focus on the original COIE because that is Anti-Monitor's magnum opus. I focus on Blackest Night because that is Nekron's magnum opus. Are you stupid?

Lol, so again, for Nekron we used a decades later story to prove his powers. But for AM(and pre-crisis Multiverse), we can only use the original story

Despite just in the later issue AM instantly absorbs his universe? Tell me why she couldn't.

So we use Anti-Monitor's magnum opus, which would mean...well, he destroyed infinite amount of universes as later comics constantly established. A thing that you furiously argued pages in this thread.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1)First, Supergirl beats the shit out of him before he travels to the dawn of time

Originally posted by ODG
No sh1t, sherlock. All the power of the positive matter universes stayed in the suffused antimatter universe until he absorbed it. Reread the story before trying to argue, numbnuts.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, so again, for Nekron we used a decades later story to prove his powers. But for AM(and pre-crisis Multiverse), we can only use the original story

But if you want to use a decades later story to provide proper estimation for Anti-Monitor, ok:

What exactly are you arguing -- provided you're not just yipping and chasing after your own tail mindlessly -- you want me to place Gold Beetle and Wam-Bam-Man up on my DC hierarchy list above Anti-Monitor, b1tch?

You're dumba$$ wants to run away from the actual COIE storyline because of the clear implications of reading that story. You act like current stories featuring Anti-Monitor somehow validates your interpretation. B1tch, you picked the wrong character and thread to prevaricate over like this.

Especially given THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COIE Anti-Monitor.

So take your bumbling moronic a$$ to a different thread where you aren't dressed down several ways to Sunday.

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Originally posted by ODG
I am using both of their magnum opus stories. The stories that defined each of those characters.

But if you want to use a decades later story to provide proper estimation for Anti-Monitor, ok:

And, shamelessly, talking about an established history of power and station

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
are people seriously arguing that the multiverse didn't have infinite universes during..... crisis on INFINITE earths? lmfao.

https://postimg.cc/3kbqJySB
"we were split into an infinite number of universes" - coie #5

https://postimg.cc/pyPctbRk
"experiments carried out by krona resulted in the creation of an infinite number of universes." - dc encyclopedia

https://postimg.cc/RWqVsDWZ
"countless universes were erased from existence in a spreading tide of antimatter" - jla in crisis #1

https://postimg.cc/DJGHN2cc
"the crisis to come would usher in a wave of infinite deaths on infinite worlds" - 52 #3

https://postimg.cc/Zvh2t17z
"a multiverse where universes and planets such as earth were replicated and mirrored across a vibrating infinite plane." - 52 #4

https://postimg.cc/Cdj9Hx5h
"at the time, there was an infinite number of universes." - 52 #5

https://postimg.cc/dLwpWcZ8
"we went from an infinite number of universes with almost as many earths, to one." - 52 #6

https://postimg.cc/p5xG1Kr2
"krona peered back in time and triggered the creation of an infinite number of parallel universes" - jsa #20

......and there's quite a bit more out there.

yall can cling to a handful of cherry picked statements from a 40 year old comic series if you want. i'll stick with the much more recent information. cheers.

Originally posted by operator616
See some below.

Im not sure what you mean by "applicable", but let's start:

in Captain Atom #43, he absorbs Nekron's energies:

http://i.imgur.com/QOm0Cmt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QZwPRLA.jpg

Now that i think of that's kind of relevant. But it's also worth mentioning: Given what Captain Atom achieved a few issues later, it may be a bit less humiliating.

In Underworld Unleashed, Fate and Alan (with the green flame) owned him pretty badly (literally pushed him into the rift and destroyed it):

http://i.imgur.com/TxX9MfC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YwfzMNV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FdhFW6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Upd3hwq.jpg

Kyle withstood a blast and even got the better of him in a GL annual:

http://i.imgur.com/FooFkan.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GBaaLcc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AktFHOt.jpg

Ill stop here, and like i told you: AM doesn't have that kind of low showings, since he's on another level.

But enough of the unimpressive moments since the main point is: Nekron doesn't have the feats to compete with Anti Monitor. That should settle it.

Nekron is a universal abstract? Cool, that doesn't mean he can take on AM in any way.

Mr Master-lite, yo.

Nothing even addresses what I pointed out. Or was this some behind-the-scenes effort to argue against the infinite of universes? Focus, kid, that ship sailed several threads and several weeks ago . We were talking about Anti-Monitor's power. Cry more about what COIE actually portrayed.

F@cking pathetic.

Originally posted by ODG

Especially given THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COIE Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by ODG

Nothing even addresses what I pointed out. Or was this some behind-the-scenes effort to argue against the infinite of universes? Focus, kid, that ship sailed several threads and several weeks ago . We were talking about Anti-Monitor's power. Cry more about what COIE actually portrayed.

Originally posted by ODG

Especially given THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COIE Anti-Monitor.

^ Once again ignoring how I repeatedly pointed out about how Anti-Monitor did not absorb the power of his antimatter universe suffused with the power of all those positive matter universes, we've come full circle again, moron.

If you think Anti-Monitor was a near infinite multiversal power before he absorbed his antimatter universe, how do you explain Supergirl beating the sh1t out of him?

Lemme guess...

Originally posted by ODG
"B-b-b-but, cuz Superman!?!"

Originally posted by ODG
^ Once again ignoring how I repeatedly pointed out about how Anti-Monitor did not absorb the power of his antimatter universe suffused with the power of all those positive matter universes, we've come full circle again, moron.

If you think Anti-Monitor was a near infinite multiversal power before he absorbed his antimatter universe, how do you explain Supergirl beating the sh1t out of him?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just to jump in on point #3: would it not just be an extension of DC's fetish for Kryptonians?

Originally posted by LordGod
To be fair, have we ever been given an explanation for why Superman and Superboy Prime can do what they do?

I mean Superman can drop World Forger. Superboy Prime can fight Darkest Knight. Kryptonians can do some crazy things when they're going all out, and a true explanation is rarely given. DC writers just love to stroke them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman and Batman are the two greatest properties in DC. Their sacred cash cows - so they get wanked. And by extension, the Super and Batfamilies get some of this wank too.

Batman routinely fights and has showings waaaay out of his street tier, human level weight class.

Superman does the same, but his weight class being herald means.....World Forgers and Imperiexes.

If you want an in-universe explanation? Chalk it up to Mxy and Batmite being their guardian angels, if you must have an explanation.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
👆

Superman punches WF, Supergirl beats AM, Superboy Prime beats Darkest Knight. It almost like DC has some fetish to Kryptonians *gasp*

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, all these characters are just that weak. Kmc ran off that logic for decades lol

Originally posted by Diesldude
One shot ko of barbatos too.

Originally posted by ODG
Lemme guess...

It's sad that you feel no shame from having been led by the nose back to your infantile "B-b-b-but, cuz Superman!?!" excuses. I mean, jfc, across two threads even.

You were utterly oblivious to the course of where I was taking the conversation, weren't you? Didn't see it coming at all. F@cking hell, even quanchi112 might've seen that coming. The KMC circle of life in full display:

Originally posted by ODG
It's sad that you feel no shame from having been led by the nose back to your infantile "B-b-b-but, cuz Superman!?!" excuses. I mean, jfc, across two threads even.

You were utterly oblivious to the course of where I was taking the conversation, weren't you? Didn't see it coming at all. F@cking hell, even quanchi112 might've seen that coming. The KMC circle of life in full display:

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well.....this is probably what they called a meltdown

Originally posted by ODG

You want to talk about Supergirl and Anti-Monitor, revive those threads.