Originally posted by Robtard
Nope. Proof me wrong.Nope. A baseless assertion.
Not baseless.
The rules are:
A character has a special attribute in a forum fight
ONLY if there are feats/showings that give evidence towards it.
Since Namor wasn't shown to resist anything extremely hot then he doesn't get HV resistance in a forum fight.
Therefore he gets one shot here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The HV was shown to cut through the entire plane. A clean sweep. Im not sure what you are talking about.
It didn't cut all the way through, as you don't see the HV exiting on the other side of the plane. So NOT that amount of aluminium, which is my point. Hence, grossly inflated.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It also assumes the (stressed) plane didn't tear itself apart in midair once the initial cut occurred, helping the cut propagate through the fuselage. So Homelander isn't actually melting the skin further along the plane, it just looks that way because the internals are all ablaze (but we have no idea of the HV is actually melting the aluminium).It's grossly inflated to assume 20,000 degree Celsius off that scene. Which is my point.
The plane was being cut by the HV as the HV propagated upwards. There was no plane tearing itself apart behind the swipe.
You are clearly making stuff up.
In no way it appears that way to anyone who saw the scene.
It clearly appears (as intended) to slice the plane as it travels upward.
Originally posted by h1a8
Not baseless.
The rules are:
A character has a special attribute in a forum fight
ONLY if there are feats/showings that give evidence towards it.Since Namor wasn't shown to resist anything extremely hot then he doesn't get HV resistance in a forum fight.
Therefore he gets one shot here.
Umm, I showed how Namor survived heat of 30k and 40k C using your same principals.
Originally posted by h1a8
The HV was shown to cut through the entire plane. A clean sweep. Im not sure what you are talking about.
We do not see the HV exiting the plane on the other side. So it did not cut all the way through. If it did, then you must prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
The plane was being cut by the HV as the HV propagated upwards. There was no plane tearing itself apart behind the swipe.You are clearly making stuff up.
In no way it appears that way to anyone who saw the scene.
It clearly appears (as intended) to slice the plane as it travels upward.
Originally posted by KingD19
Homelander actually put a numerical value to the temperature of his heat vision in Diabolical which is canon to the Boys TV show. 500° fahrenheit.
Ah, I had forgotten about that series.
Well then, there it is, 500F. Impressive, but not so impressive in the superhero world.
Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, I had forgotten about that series.Well then, there it is, 500F. Impressive, but not so impressive in the superhero world.
Indeed. It's impressive, and hot enough that it immediately caused a sub-machinegun to turn red hot and explode because of the ammo in it, but nowhere near what h1 is creating with his Terrance Howard math.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We do not see the HV exiting the plane on the other side. So it did not cut all the way through. If it did, then you must prove it.How can you prove this?
We do not need to see the HV exit the plane in order to know it sliced the plane in half.
You see the other side of the plane completely melt and on fire BEFORE the plane separated.
Originally posted by KingD19
Homelander actually put a numerical value to the temperature of his heat vision in Diabolical which is canon to the Boys TV show. 500° fahrenheit.
In fiction we have inconsistency. Characters perform higher and lower than their averages. For example, the plane feat was well beyond several thousand degrees Celsius.
Originally posted by h1a8
We do not need to see the HV exit the plane in order to know it sliced the plane in half.You see the other side of the plane completely melt and on fire BEFORE the plane separated.
We don't. We see flames, which is just the internals of the plane catching fire. Which would still happen even if the HV didn't go all the way through.
The HV didn't slice all the way through. Thus your calculations are way off, as it didn't go through that volume of aluminium. If you can prove that it sliced all the way through, then show so.
And how do you prove there was no stresses on the fuselage that contributed to the plane breaking apart? Please do so.
Originally posted by KingD19
Homelander zaps a gun in "The Boys: Diabolical" and says it's hard to hold it at 500° Fahrenheit, which is 260° Celsius. Also people like Butcher, Maeve, Soldier Boy and Stormfront have tanked his lasers.
Homelander can control the power of his lasers. Unless you wanna say he can't even cut a plastic bottle with it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We don't. We see flames, which is just the internals of the plane catching fire. Which would still happen even if the HV didn't go all the way through.The HV didn't slice all the way through. Thus your calculations are way off, as it didn't go through that volume of aluminium. If you can prove that it sliced all the way through, then show so.
And how do you prove there was no stresses on the fuselage that contributed to the plane breaking apart? Please do so.
You didn't address this.
Originally posted by h1a8
You see the other side of the plane completely melt and on fire BEFORE the plane separated.
Fire was OUTSIDE the plane as the beam was sweeping upwards.
That means the plane was completely melted on the other side (as to explain the fire escaping to the outside) AS the beam was sweeping. Simultaneously is the key.
Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't address this.Fire was OUTSIDE the plane as the beam was sweeping upwards.
That means the plane was completely melted on the other side (as to explain the fire escaping to the outside) AS the beam was sweeping. Simultaneously is the key.
It was the internals being on fire, I already addressed this. Same way an itty bitty bullet makes an entire car explode, flames being on the other side of the plane just points to the internals being on fire and burning the plane.