Originally posted by ODG
Well, yes. Exactly so. 👆Your facetious projection hasn’t changed the course of this “discussion” though. But we all await with bated breath, scans of actual Darkseid feats that you’re holding up your sleeves that will salvage your comparison between him and Odin.
Don’t keep us waiting! kinda
I already exceeded pretty much every feat or non feat you brought here.
^ Well, you haven’t fooled anyone here. And even you’re not stupid enough to have fooled yourself. You’re just loudly declaring otherwise to cover up how utterly ruined you’ve left yourself.
Is this what you fantasized about while chasing me over 10+ years? That my deigning to offer you the attention you so craved, you manage to implode over a simple Darkseid vs Odin comparison and fumble so badly?
But is it over? Surely abhilegend will not go quietly into the night. So setting aside his phail resurrection comparison, we have Odin casually creating a world ex nihilo by walking into empty space, taming a galaxy-wide superstorm, timestopping and teleporting a planet’s population and reversing planetary-wide devastation.
What shall abhilegend post in response? Will it even involve an actual Darkseid feat? Only his bloody butt can tell.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Well, you haven’t fooled anyone here. And even you’re not stupid enough to have fooled yourself. You’re just loudly declaring otherwise to cover up how utterly ruined you’ve left yourself.Is this what you fantasized about while chasing me over 10+ years? That my deigning to offer you the attention you so craved, you manage to implode over a simple Darkseid vs Odin comparison and fumble so badly?
But is it over? Surely abhilegend will not go quietly into the night. So setting aside his phail resurrection comparison, we have Odin casually creating a world ex nihilo by walking into empty space, taming a galaxy-wide superstorm, timestopping and teleporting a planet’s population and reversing planetary-wide devastation.
What shall abhilegend post in response? Will it even involve an actual Darkseid feat? Only his bloody butt can tell.
Yes, it's over, I've already defeated you multiple times in this very thread and reduced you to a blubbering retarded level of "This you", "No, you" incoherence.
Run along, loser.
Originally posted by ODG
^ So far the only feat of unamped canon Darkseid you posted was him resurrecting a single human girl.If that's all the feats of Darkseid you have, I daresay, "Yes, it's over."
There's just one Darkseid in the multiverse retard.
Couple of things....
>>>"Secondly, H/P Doomsday did not fight the realm of Apokolips along w/ Darkseid."<<<
Yes he did.
H/P Dooms had apparently "raged across Apokolips" for hours having "already ripped through several divisions of [Seid's] best troops" immediately before Darkseid then ordered his "elite guard" to "slow [Doomsday's] progress" which we then see getting slaughtered while stating their "most powerful guns have no effect" while demonstrating the uselessness of their exo armor which they seem to be convinced "can stop anything" before Doomsday crumples it.
Desaad is pretty clearly seen begging Seid to send for off world "help before Apokolops is nught but a smoldering ruin."
And Darkseid "takes a more active roll" in light of the fact that his forces nor their weapons would "have/effect on the creature."
So what are you talking about?
And...
>>>"Well, H/P Doomsday never evolved past simple punching. So the no-limits fallacy is unavailing. And the OP never specified the battle took place on the Rainbow Bridge."<<<
H/P Doomsday is seen in three stories... "Hunter/Prey", "Doomsday Wars", and "Our Worlds At War."
In "Hunter/Prey" mullet Supes just went through a huge power boost due to regaining his powers through Kryptonite X in Superman #82, and other than when he was hulking up, he didn't seem to lose any of his power boosts when he leveled back out... And, he's got a Mother Box which is stated to give him "extra/enhanced strength" in the Hunter/Prey Superman fact file included in the action figure 2 pack one shot. So punching Doomsday would be pretty effective from a stronger and amped Superman here right? But that isn't what we see...
Hunter/Prey Supes punches Doomsday a handful of times, at one point insisting he's "tearing away at Doomsday with everything" he's got, and getting backhanded for his troubles, then again briefly staggering Doomsday off balance with an uppercut before Doomsday starts laughing at him for the effort, and finally bulldozing into Doomsday's back with a 5-mile flight build up of steam into a mountain to which Dooms simply responds with "Bah" in the aftermath, relatively unbothered.
None of those punches were very effective at all.
In Doomsday Wars, after Supes removes Braniac from Doomsday's brain and transports him to the moon, Supes hits Doomsday from behind with a ftl flying bulldoze from Earth and gets in 3 whole punches before Doomsday catches his fist and hits him with enough force to send Supes hurdling into a Lantern construct with multiple Leaguers talking about how Supes is lucky Doomsday didn't take his head off...
So again, H/P Doomsday seemed to evolve beyond punching (from what we saw) just fine as Supe's strongest punches before H/P "killed" Doomsday, and a stronger/amped Supe's strongest punches after H/P did little more than stagger him, or at best, produced a bloody lip.
O.W.A.W. Doomsday is pretty much cruising through fodder til he runs into Imperiex Prime but we never see a physical attack like punching as an effective measure used against him there.
In my copy of the Hunter/Prey T.P.B., in the introduction by Jurgens, he insists that "Doomsday naturally evolves beyond the capacity of his foes to beat him, he can never be defeated by the same means twice."
So once more, what are you talking about? Are you talking about Doomsday after he got turned into a quasi post-crisis Kryptonian clone by Lex? Because that's not the same as H/P Doomsday... If not, then what example are you referencing?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, that's what is called a retcon, now Mangog's race was never revived by Odin in the first place. As explained in Thor 157 and until Thor run by Jurgens, Mangog was merely a prison for the alien race.
Is it even a retcon? "They say" a lot of things, and unless "they" represent the 3rd person impartial narrative box, then they're just a bunch of 3rd party observers making statements and lore that might happen to be wrong. Maybe that was intended to be a retcon but if so, it's definitely one with an asterisk.
Originally posted by abhilegendOh, I see. You've been considering the multiversal True Form Darkseid this entire time. I mean, that's kinda weird. But I suppose that serves as an abject concession that you cannot compare Darkseid's feats to 616 Odin's unless you combine every single alternate Darkseid across the DC multiverse into a single conglomerated being.
Unamped canon Darkseid? Lol, Darkseid was weakened in GDS and dying in Final Crisis.There's just one Darkseid in the multiverse retard.
Nuff said.
Originally posted by jinzin
Is it even a retcon? "They say" a lot of things, and unless "they" represent the 3rd person impartial narrative box, then they're just a bunch of 3rd party observers making statements and lore that might happen to be wrong. Maybe that was intended to be a retcon but if so, it's definitely one with an asterisk.
Originally posted by ODG
Oh, I see. You've been considering the multiversal True Form Darkseid this entire time.
I mean, that's kinda weird. But I suppose that serves as an abject concession that you cannot compare Darkseid's feats to 616 Odin's unless you combine every single alternate Darkseid across the DC multiverse into a single conglomerated being.
Nuff said.
I'm not even using true form Darkseid but his emanations in the lower worlds to demonstrate that even they are superior to Odin lol.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Pretty pathetic you have to resort to comparing the multiversal True Form Darkseid to 616 Odin.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]Hard to believe Final Crisis is still being debated. Three letters is all you need: ALE.The mere broadcast by Mokkari of the ALE onto the internet cracked time and space on-panel. As nobody can argue the crumpling of time and space = the Multiverse folding in on itself into the singularity. What else do you need to know? ALE literally remade all into Darkseid, such would be the penultimate result of being the rightful master of all existence. You got normal people becoming his body and literally shootin Omega Finder beams, a mere broadcast over the Internet cracking time and space before DS even manifests and Cain and Spectre unmaking creation by its mere utterance, etc. The ALE wasn't mere mind-control no matter how desperately some posters want it to be. It's mastery prefaced Darkseid's war in the Fourth World as stated by Grant himself and accelerated the destruction/subjugation of reality unto Darkseid as demonstrated on-panel. Nuff said.
Just one argument out of dozens over the years.
Keep this befuddled state. It suits you better. 👆 [/B]
😂
Even your retorts are lame as ****.
Originally posted by abhilegendThat wasn't even multiversal True Form Darkseid. Just Darkseid w/ ALE. We saw multiversal True Form Darkseid for the first time during Infinite Frontier #0 per his own words.
Didn't you try over a decade that true form Darkseid was not that powerful and it was all ALE?
Originally posted by abhilegendAs opposed to one farce out of dozens over the years from you?
Just one argument out of dozens over the years.
Originally posted by abhilegendIt's sad you think my retorts are meant for you. My audience is the wider KMC forum. I have no intentions of curing your unique imbecility. Just exposing it for everybody else's laffs.
Even your retorts are lame as ****.