A water Manipulator vs Magneto

Originally posted by rox
But how would that effect water. It's not magnetic.

Imagine how badass movie Magneto could have been if he was comic book accurate. Being able to "control metal" is but a fraction of Magneto's power.

Originally posted by rox
Oh just humor me. And since when does iceman control water at that level

Originally posted by Smurph
It's sorta his whole thing.

we're also just using the best water manipulator we've seen which is iceman. if you're asking if some water guy who's powerful enough can beat mags....well doesn't make much sense since we can't really prove it and comics science and real science rarely line up.

But we know that Mags can break water apart into hydrogen and oxygen (tbf, anyone with a strong enough current can do it - even me at home. It's called electrolysis, and is one of the way people make hydrogen).

So a water being could be just ripped apart at the atomic level by Magneto.

^nerd

Give me your lunch money

I should think a theoretical omega-level hydrokinetic mutant is still someone who controls water at a molecular level.

Iceman is an on-panel omega-level cryokinetic who controls the redistribution of heat at a molecular level that isn't limited to just H2O.

But Magneto is an on-panel omega-level magnetism mutant whose power clearly extends towards an undefined level of electromagnetism. Which is one of the four fundamental forces of nature.

In terms of scale, I see Magneto being clearly superior. But Magneto is the master of magnetism and not the master of the 2nd fundamental force of nature. So unless this hydrokinetic can theoretically overcome Magneto's greatest feats, it seems an uphill battle for them.

Originally posted by ODG
But Magneto is an on-panel omega-level

When did this happen?

^ That's actually a good question. I keep conflating the Twelve that Apocalypse wanted to use with omega-level mutants but Jonathan Hickman made it clear during the Krakoa era that Magneto was an omega-level mutant:

I'm pretty positive he was classified as omega-level well before Hickman got his hands on the X-Men though.

Very cool. Back in my day (ouch), I thought Magneto was Alpha level. Always thought that was strange. Glad it changed.

Originally posted by ODG
I should think a theoretical omega-level hydrokinetic mutant is still someone who controls water at a molecular level.

Iceman is an on-panel omega-level cryokinetic who controls the redistribution of heat at a molecular level that isn't limited to just H2O.

But Magneto is an on-panel omega-level magnetism mutant whose power clearly extends towards an undefined level of electromagnetism. Which is one of the four fundamental forces of nature.

In terms of scale, I see Magneto being clearly superior. But Magneto is the master of magnetism and not the master of the 2nd fundamental force of nature. So unless this hydrokinetic can theoretically overcome Magneto's greatest feats, it seems an uphill battle for them.

On that note though, if it's just about an omega level water manipulator... I think Storm could go 50/50 with Magneto now. Nobody's received an amp like she has in the past decade.

She'd need her complete power set tho, not just water.

Originally posted by Smurph
Generally agree with all of this but

^ Never change, KMC.

Originally posted by ODG
I should think a theoretical omega-level hydrokinetic mutant is still someone who controls water at a molecular level.

Iceman is an on-panel omega-level cryokinetic who controls the redistribution of heat at a molecular level that isn't limited to just H2O.

But Magneto is an on-panel omega-level magnetism mutant whose power clearly extends towards an undefined level of electromagnetism. Which is one of the four fundamental forces of nature.

In terms of scale, I see Magneto being clearly superior. But Magneto is the master of magnetism and not the master of the 2nd fundamental force of nature. So unless this hydrokinetic can theoretically overcome Magneto's greatest feats, it seems an uphill battle for them.

I just think like this. Can Erick stop someone from quickly filling his lungs with water or his brain . Can he break quickly from a water bubble or survive water pressure that can crush him in seconds or if sucked into the ocean depths. Just wondering

Yeah he can,

👆

Also, Magneto's neural processing/reaction time is 1100% faster than the average human's. He's going to have the first attack.

yep.