A water Manipulator vs Magneto

Started by ODG5 pages

Originally posted by Smurph
https://imgur.com/ZxBaGW2
What issue is this scan from?

Originally posted by ODG
What issue is this scan from?

X-Men vol 2 #87, Magneto War

Originally posted by batdude123
Also, Magneto's neural processing/reaction time is 1100% faster than the average human's. He's going to have the first attack.

What chance does he have with something lighter than paper but can crush him by heavier than a million pounds of metal.

wut

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It's like a time capsule back to the 'golden age' of KMC debating.

Originally posted by rox
something lighter than paper but can crush him by heavier than a million pounds of metal.
I know that this isn't the main crux of your post, but... you know that a million pounds of paper would also crush a person, right?

Approx. equal crush as a million pounds of metal mmm

Maybe he means a million Sudanese pounds. Which equates to ~1600USD.

And by metal, they mean rhodium. So 1 million Sudanese pounds of rhodium weighs about 10grams.

Ever think about that????? Checkmate.

Originally posted by Smurph
I know that this isn't the main crux of your post, but... you know that a million pounds of paper would also crush a person, right?

Approx. equal crush as a million pounds of metal mmm

Let me break it down. Man gets surrounded by water, water can be extremely light but can become harder and heavier than metal with increased pressure. In other words water can crush you in less than a second. Also the force of water can obliterate you when its hits at a certain speed and force regardless of force fields. How can Eric stop water instantly. The answer is he can't.

ravioli ravioli give me the formuoli

Originally posted by rox
Let me break it down. Man gets surrounded by water, water can be extremely light but can become harder and heavier than metal with increased pressure. In other words water can crush you in less than a second. Also the force of water can obliterate you when its hits at a certain speed and force regardless of force fields. How can Eric stop water instantly. The answer is he can't.
Do you have on-panel examples of this sort of result being displayed on-panel by any comics character w/ hydrokinesis? Plenty of hydrokinetics in comics that you might draw from, right? And you've invoked a hypothetical hydrokinetic opponent to fight Magneto:

"any random joblow . . . a male who has unlimited water manipulation and can also create water who just happens to be able to transcend in to water also gears up for battle knowing how to use their powers with deadly accuracy. . . . "

For me, rather than approaching no-limits fallacy territory, good faith discussion would be better engendered by bringing things closer to actual comics.

Keep in mind, even if you did have such comic examples... that wouldn't necessarily factor in active opposition from an Omega-level mutant who has on-panel feats of controlling one of the four fundamental forces of the universe... But, I mean, we have to start somewhere, right?

Originally posted by Smurph
ravioli ravioli give me the formuoli
What he said, basically. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Do you have on-panel examples of this sort of result being displayed on-panel by any comics character w/ hydrokinesis? Plenty of hydrokinetics in comics that you might draw from, right? And you've invoked a hypothetical hydrokinetic opponent to fight Magneto:

"any random joblow . . . a male who has unlimited water manipulation and can also create water who just happens to be able to transcend in to water also gears up for battle knowing how to use their powers with deadly accuracy. . . . "

For me, rather than approaching no-limits fallacy territory, good faith discussion would be better engendered by bringing things closer to actual comics.

Keep in mind, even if you did have such comic examples... that wouldn't necessarily factor in active opposition from an Omega-level mutant who has on-panel feats of controlling one of the four fundamental forces of the universe... But, I mean, we have to start somewhere, right? What he said, basically. 👆

Here is the thing, with marvel and DC you want see these type of comic page character displaying these extreme abilities but other characters from other comic companies display these extreme abilities most water bender characters from animes to again other comic companies show some characters like I described. Only marvel person I know that can do this is neptune and aqueduct.

So I guess this thread is more like 'How would we as KMC posters fight Magneto, if we could control water etc etc?'

Originally posted by rox
Here is the thing, with marvel and DC you want see these type of comic page character displaying these extreme abilities but other characters from other comic companies display these extreme abilities most water bender characters from animes to again other comic companies show some characters like I described. Only marvel person I know that can do this is neptune and aqueduct.
Magneto solos every water bender in Avatar at the same time 👆 👆 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So I guess this thread is more like 'How would we as KMC posters fight Magneto, if we could control water etc etc?'

Lol if you want to play it that way. But it was a serious thread and question. Me personally with these abilities just fill his lungs and explode him. Hell rain from the MK series uses very imaginative ways to kill his opponents with fatalities

Originally posted by rox
Lol if you want to play it that way. But it was a serious thread and question. Me personally with these abilities just fill his lungs and explode him. Hell rain from the MK series uses very imaginative ways to kill his opponents with fatalities

He'd split you into hydrogen and oxygen faster than you could react. 👆

Magneto kills Rain, Smoke, Scorpion, Reptile, and both Sub Zeros. At the same time. 👆 👆

Originally posted by batdude123
He'd split you into hydrogen and oxygen faster than you could react. 👆

Kinda hard when he is choking/gasping for air. Your brain can't function and all it takes is.5 sec to drown on fluids. No oxygen to brain eric dies instantly. Water is not like fire, it's ten times faster.

Originally posted by rox
Kinda hard when he is choking/gasping for air. Your brain can't function and all it takes is.5 sec to drown on fluids. No oxygen to brain eric dies instantly. Water is not like fire, it's ten times faster.
Originally posted by batdude123
Also, Magneto's neural processing/reaction time is 1100% faster than the average human's. He's going to have the first attack.

water is faster than fire? 😕

anyway this thread got weird. you obviously came in thinking mags would lose and aren't about to have your mind changed. if he has his shield up--which he almost always does--it's highly doubtful you'd be able to affect the environment within his shield in anyway that could harm him. his shield negates most esoteric energy.

then you'd be ****ed.