Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure which Avengers Endgame you watched, but Thanos isn't stronger than Captain Marvel. She tanked Thanos' headbutt with zero issue, she then overpowered and brought Thanos to his knees while he was in control of a complete Infinity Gauntlet. Thanois had to use the power stone to save himself from Carol raping him.
Originally posted by h1a8
I never implied she would disarm either of them; Hela's weapons would still be accessible after she throws them.
Originally posted by h1a8
For this fight, I'd argue that Captain Marvel wins by using Thanos' sword against Hela after turning Hela's own weapons against Thanos, or after Thanos falls to Hela - whichever happens first.
I think you misunderstood my point, which was that I have never seen Cap pick up the weapons of her enemies and use them, let alone effectively.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85All combatant characters will eventually pick up weapons after an indefinite period without dealing any damage. It's not a matter of if, but when.
I think you misunderstood my point, which was that I have never seen Cap pick up the weapons of her enemies and use them, let alone effectively.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cap has never shown the propensity to do so.
Correct, but that isn't necessary here since CM can't damage either character. Eventually, she would resort to using the available weapons. After all, it's unreasonable to think that someone of average intelligence would keep punching, kicking, ramming, and blasting thousands or millions of times without inflicting any damage, without eventually opting for one of the many accessible weapons around. If Hela or Thanos had the means to inflict damage to CM, it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't opt for a weapon before she falls.
Some might argue, however, that she could potentially win a battle of attrition against Thanos, making a weapon unnecessary in that case.
Originally posted by h1a8
Correct, but she can't harm him either; she needs either Hela's weapons or his.
Wrong. CM has the greater physical strength to harm Thanos, as she literally drove him to his knees and was physically harming him, you see the pain on his face. Until he pulled the power stone to stop her from wreaking him further.
You really need to pay attention to the films/scenes you're arguing over.
Originally posted by RobtardBut she couldn't harm him with punches or blasts, and she isn't going to knock him out any other way. He overpowered her and tossed her aside like a rag doll. Whether Thanos felt any pain is unclear, as the display of pain and significant strain or effort can look similar.
Wrong. CM has the greater physical strength to harm Thanos, as she literally drove him to his knees and was physically harming him, you see the pain on his face. Until he pulled the power stone to stop her from wreaking him further.You really need to pay attention to the films/scenes you're arguing over.
Originally posted by h1a8
Correct, but that isn't necessary here since CM can't damage either character. Eventually, she would resort to using the available weapons. After all, it's unreasonable to think that someone of average intelligence would keep punching, kicking, ramming, and blasting thousands or millions of times without inflicting any damage, without eventually opting for one of the many accessible weapons around. If Hela or Thanos had the means to inflict damage to CM, it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't opt for a weapon before she falls.Some might argue, however, that she could potentially win a battle of attrition against Thanos, making a weapon unnecessary in that case.
We can't attribute any special skills or abilities to her. Without any proof, there's zero indication she has the propensity to do so, let alone effectively.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We can't attribute any special skills or abilities to her. Without any proof, there's zero indication she has the propensity to do so, let alone effectively.
Her intelligence suggests she has the propensity. Over time, with weapons readily available and no significant damage inflicted, she will eventually pick them up and use them. It doesn't take any special skill or ability to recognize this.
Right now, you're not debating in good faith; it feels more like a contest to win while disregarding common sense.
Proof is definitely needed to show she would pick up the weapons immediately or shortly after the fight begins.
We can agree to disagree if you still want to argue this propensity over an extended period without progress. I won't spend too long debating matters of common sense.
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think he actually watches the films.
Originally posted by tkitna
No mention of the power gem. Perfect.
The Power Gem hasn't been shown to make its possessor physically stronger in the MCU. Unless you're mistakenly referring to when Thanos blasted her away with the Power Stone, I'm talking about when he grabbed her arm and swung her aside like a rag doll.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1: ah but you see, when I said 'stronger', I very cleverly didn't *ahem* mention how he was stronger, see you fell into my *ahem* very clever trap, I truly am supremely clever!
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think he actually watches the films.
Originally posted by tkitna
No mention of the power gem. Perfect.
The Power Gem hasn't been shown to make its possessor physically stronger in the MCU. Unless you're mistakenly referring to when Thanos blasted her away with the Power Stone, I'm talking about when he grabbed her arm and swung her aside like a rag doll.
Originally posted by h1a8
Physically strongerThe Power Gem hasn't been shown to make its possessor physically stronger in the MCU. Unless you're mistakenly referring to when Thanos blasted her away with the Power Stone, I'm talking about when he grabbed her arm and swung her aside like a rag doll.
It has, actually. The Power Stone is the only reason Ronan survived getting shot by the Hadron Enforcer and having the Dark Aster crash on his head. Both times he was just fine. And without it he is simply a Kree like Dar-Bin or Yon-Rogg. Unless you think all Kree are capable of tanking moon destroying weapons or massive spaceships exploding on top of them.
Originally posted by h1a8
I provided a legitimate way for her to win, but it seems you didn't read it since you're not addressing it. In a forum fight, Carol will always have her force field active. She's also slightly stronger than Thanos.
Originally posted by RobtardAfter Thanos fought like how many guys, Thor , Cap w/ mjolnir, Ironman, getting crushed by Scarlett witch to the point he had to cry for help? Replace him with CM and she dies horribly.
Not sure which Avengers Endgame you watched, but Thanos isn't stronger than Captain Marvel. She tanked Thanos' headbutt with zero issue, she then overpowered and brought Thanos to his knees while he was in control of a complete Infinity Gauntlet. Thanois had to use the power stone to save himself from Carol raping him.
Overpowered my behind. Coupled that Thanos was distracted by her taking the headbutt.
The real contest of strength was in the beginning of endgame where a "dying" Thanos was literally overpowering her. You should watch it.