Originally posted by carver9
But it's clear evidence that power level=power output. We see that when Goku and Vegeta beams clash and Goku wins because he was more powerful. Or when Gohan and Cell beams clashed and Gohan easily overpowers it because he is more powerful. It's consistent and it happens all of the time. By the way, this attack would kill everyone on DC and Marvel earth.../2AHDzzTOxc0?si=s4Kc7ycRASJgVy3c
Originally posted by carver9
Also, why are you comparing DB humans to comics and regular humans? You do know Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha are human, right? Heck, we've seen humans in DB throw around 10 ton boulders like they are nothing.
For example, Darkseid's energy was seen from yottaparsecs away.
Originally posted by abhilegend
https://ibb.co/JsmXwsNThe energy released at the death of Darkseid was seen yottaparsecs away.
"A yottaparsec is a unit of measurement combining the prefix yotta- and the measurement parsec. It is 3.08567758e+40 meters long or 1.01236141e+41 feet. It is 70,142,654,600,000 times longer than the radius of the Observable Universe. 1 yottaparsec is approximately equal to 3.086e+64 yoctometers. "
Just to give an idea how big that distance is.
Originally posted by abhilegend
For example, Darkseid's energy was seen from yottaparsecs away."A yottaparsec is a unit of measurement combining the prefix yotta- and the measurement parsec. It is 3.08567758e+40 meters long or 1.01236141e+41 feet. It is 70,142,654,600,000 times longer than the radius of the Observable Universe. 1 yottaparsec is approximately equal to 3.086e+64 yoctometers. "
Just to give an idea how big that distance is.
Why are you impressed with this when Dragonball characters energy is so powerful that it can be felt across the universe into other dimensions?
Originally posted by carver9
The shotgun wasn't measured, just the guy.
So it's a normal shotgun. Even better.
Originally posted by carver9
Why are you impressed with this when Dragonball characters energy is so powerful that it can be felt across the universe into other dimensions?
Abhi about to post that creepy Mahnke art of Luthor and Superman's energy being felt across dimensions....
Originally posted by carver9
Why are you impressed with this when Dragonball characters energy is so powerful that it can be felt across the universe into other dimensions?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So it's a normal shotgun. Even better.Abhi about to post that creepy Mahnke art of Luthor and Superman's energy being felt across dimensions....
Originally posted by abhilegendEh, I have never argued that DB uses linear scaling... Quite the opposite, actually. All PLs and tier placement really do is give us a simple way to help scale the characters.
Or Dragon ball is just inconsistent and doesn't has linear scaling.
ie. OG Roshi can destroy the moon with max-diff. This means anyone with a PL =/> 139 can do the same(assuming they can produce high-level energy attacks, obvs)... Because that's just how it works in DB.
-Same thing with Saiyan saga Vegeta being able to destroy planets with high-diff. This means anyone with a PL =/> 18k can do the same.
-Same thing with 1st form Freeza being able to destroy planets with no-diff. This means anyone with a PL =/> 530k can do the same.
-etc. etc. etc. (and don't even get me started on God-level power.)
IOW, if a character has a PL of 1m, we don't need to see them effortlessly destroy a planet on-panel/screen to know they still can(even in the absence of collaterally significant feats)... Nor do we need to see them fight someone with a PL of 500k to know they would literally no-sell every single one of the weaker character's attacks(Cell, for example, wouldn't even flinch at an all-out blast from Namek-era Freeza.) It's not always the collateral scale of the attack that matters -- it's about the potency the attack contains within a given area.
Toriyama at least made power-scaling very easy to understand in that respect.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So it's a normal shotgun. Even better.Abhi about to post that creepy Mahnke art of Luthor and Superman's energy being felt across dimensions....
But anyone with a brain knows that's not what that scan means. So he posted it for nothing.
Also, no to your comment about the shot gun.
No, lmmfao... only beings with a power level over 100, and yes, if that human actually train and know how to use their kai energy. Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha all started off as humans that trained to be some of the strongest beings on the planet. So yes, with hard work, your average human can become planet busters.
Regular human tossing this (Yajirobe)...
He even survived a car exploding on him while he was cloud height and was still awake without a scratch...
And this is with borderline good training...
So without training, 30 random tubby middle-aged guys can destroy the moon?
I mean, its either consistent or its not.
Roshi is PL = 139. Y/N?
Nofu the ostrich farmer is PL = 5, Y/N?
139/5 = ~28, Y/N?
So 28 normal human ostrich farmers can destroy the Moon, without needing any special training or equipment.
Unless it's NOT linear/scaled.