Originally posted by carver9
"Killing Moro". What does killing mean to you? 😆It even say, "beyond that". At least you're trying. Doomsday death on the moon didn't even leave a crack.
The sequence of reading dialog balloons is from right to left and up to down in manga
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not really, it says "beyond that, his *swollen energy will detonate*...possibly obliterating the entire galaxy"The sequence of reading dialog balloons is from right to left and up to down in manga
I'm seeing beyond that which correlates with the destruction of his death.
Originally posted by carver9
@DarkHe stood there and absorbed it. He had time to concentrate on a task whereas thats completely different than being hit dead on by a greater than Galaxy destroying attack. All you're doing is trolling to get a reaction out of me. The rest of your comments involving this will be ignored.
But that's my point.
A galaxy destroying attack, when spread out over a galaxy, would be tiny at the level of a human. Just like a nuke, when detonated, is relatively tiny at the level of a single tree.
On TOP of that, it was energy that is specifically poisonous to him. You're a Wolverine fan - remember Maverick? He had an acid that was specifically anti HF. Imagine if Wolverine absorbed an entire city's worth of acid. That would be crazy as a feat.
Imagine he absorbed enough acid to cover the entire state of Washington. Enough to cover the globe.
That's why it's crazy. Moreover, 😂 at you trying to make out like he had loads of time - he did it in less than ten minutes. And again, it was anti-sunlight.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm seeing beyond that which correlates with the destruction of his death.
"Killing Moro will mean destroying the Earth itself."
"And beyond that(I.E, aside from destroying Earth), his swollen energy will detonate....possibly obliterating the entire galaxy"
The only way I think you would have misinterpreted these sentences will be you somehow read the sequence of dialogue wrong
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It means when Moro is killed, aside from destroying the Earth, his energy will detonate. And the detonated energy can potentially destroy the entire galaxy"Killing Moro will mean destroying the Earth itself."
"And beyond that(I.E, aside from destroying Earth), his swollen energy will detonate....possibly obliterating the entire galaxy"
The only way I think you would have misinterpreted these sentences will be you somehow read the sequence of dialogue wrong
Yoire right about it going beyond Galaxy level when looking at it like that. I concede on that. Nice post.
Originally posted by Galan007
Uhuh, but as I said:The Moro scene is really no different than Semi-Perfect Cell's detonation in that respect:
Given that we know:
Semi-Perfect Cell >> Imperfect Cell >> #17 > SS1 Vegeta(early Android arc) > SS1 Goku(Namek arc) > 4th form Freeza >>>>>>>> 1st form Freeza(a casual planet-buster)...Do you really think the potency of Cell's detonation 'only' capped at planet-level?
OR we can also refer back to SS2 Majin Vegeta's kamikaze detonation in the Boo arc: Vegeta released the sum total of his energy(killing himself in the process) to try and destroy Boo, yet it ultimately just left a massive crater on the battlefield:
https://ibb.co/w6XH1C5
https://ibb.co/1n3JD2Y
https://ibb.co/nMDZqs6
https://ibb.co/HBHthkc...Do you really think the potency of Vegeta's detonation 'only' capped at nuke-level?
If your answers to the above are 'no', then why wouldn't the same logic also apply to the Moro scene? ie. The range/scale of his imminent detonation may have 'only' been galaxy-level, but the potency within that area may have been vastly beyond that.
Because like you mentioned: the anime and manga have both established that even when two n00b-SSG level opponents fight(Beerus was suppressing himself down to Goku's level), it can result in the destruction of the entire universe:
https://ibb.co/NpWPdq5...And Angel-Moro is literally hundredS/thousandS of times beyond n00b-SSG level.
tl;dr
Like I keep reiterating: in the world of DB, the amount of collateral damage an attack causes is not always indicative of the attack's true power/potency within a designated area... Hence, again, why the Kamehameha that MUI Goku used to drop Jiren is >g_infinity the Kamehameha that OG Roshi used to destroy the moon(despite the latter causing FAR more collateral damage than the former.)
Originally posted by carver9
"Killing Moro". What does killing mean to you? 😆It even say, "beyond that". At least you're trying. Doomsday death on the moon didn't even leave a crack.
What do you think after his death means? You are the one that forgot to mention that part. Him dying destroying a planet is already greater than any death Superman, Doomsday or Superboy Prime has had. When you factor in the milky way being destroyed as a side effect, that piss on most cosmics. Cry more.
Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao... i don't debate collateral damage.
Originally posted by carver9
What do you think after his death means? You are the one that forgot to mention that part. Him dying destroying a planet is already greater than any death Superman, Doomsday or Superboy Prime has had. When you factor in the milky way being destroyed as a side effect, that piss on most comics. Cry more.
So collateral damage? This you?
*sigh* I feel like my posts regarding the general irrelevance of collateral damage, and the much higher importance of attack potency, are just falling on deaf ears to some here.
Like I said before: SPC was SS2-tier, and stated that his final Kamehameha had the power to destroy the solar system(which was corroborated in a guidebook, iirc.) That said, when SS2 Majin Vegeta kamikaze'd against Boo, he released the sum total of his energy(killing himself in the process), and this was the end result:
This is important because SS2 Majin Vegeta > SPC. And even though the collateral damage he caused 'only' appears to be nuke-like, we can logically infer that said kamikaze might've had solar system+ level potency within that localized area(ie. if you're inside the bubble, you are only surviving if you can endure a solar system buster.)
So why couldn't the Moro instance be the same, except his 'bubble' is on a galactic scale instead..? After all, we know that even low level God-tier characters can generate universe-busting shockwaves as a corollary of a short brawl between them, and Moro is orders of magnitude above that level, so...
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Originally posted by carver9
What do you think after his death means? You are the one that forgot to mention that part. Him dying destroying a planet is already greater than any death Superman, Doomsday or Superboy Prime has had. When you factor in the milky way being destroyed as a side effect, that piss on most cosmics. Cry more.
Monarch is infinitely more powerful than Moro, right?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So collateral damage? This you?
Stay in topic. This is why I'm discuss this. I never mentioned Moro death destroying a Galaxy as a way he could win, but when you downplay someone's death that would wipe away the largest Galaxy in the universe, you're trolling. This doesn't happen in comics and it's FAR and away from being a low showing or showing the capabilities of someone's power level. Especially considering beings like LT death not destroying sh**.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That doesn't always works in DBZ, by scaling nowadays DB characters should be universal/multiversal but as recently as Moro arc had Moro threaten to destroy the galaxy and that was supposed to be a big deal.
Originally posted by Galan007
*sigh* I feel like my posts regarding the general irrelevance of collateral damage, and the much higher importance of attack potency, are just falling on deaf ears to some here.Like I said before: SPC was SS2-tier, and stated that his final Kamehameha had the power to destroy the solar system(which was corroborated in a guidebook, iirc.) That said, when SS2 Majin Vegeta kamikaze'd against Boo, he released the sum total of his energy(killing himself in the process), and this was the end result:
This is important because SS2 Majin Vegeta > SPC. And even though the collateral damage he caused 'only' appears to be nuke-like, we can logically infer that said kamikaze might've had solar system+ level potency within that localized area(ie. if you're inside the bubble, you are only surviving if you can endure a solar system buster.)
So why couldn't the Moro instance be the same, except his 'bubble' is on a galactic scale instead..? After all, we know that even low level God-tier characters can generate universe-busting shockwaves as a corollary of a short brawl between them, and Moro is orders of magnitude above that level, so...
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Here's Monarch dying destroyed an entire universe.Monarch is infinitely more powerful than Moro, right?