Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes. It literally does. Again, every character you mention as being resistant to matter manipulation is also either a matter manipulator, a cosmic entity, or both.The skyscraper being dropped on Thanos scenario is just an example of Thanos's inferior durability, not necessarily a tactic to be used in this fight although if it was, Thanos would be held in place like the punk purple crybaby bytch he is due to Apoc's TK, which he has no defense against, especially considering Spiderman's webs were enough to temporarily restrain him.
And finally the core of your ridiculous argument that Apoc can't transmute Thanos' organs because "he hasn't specifically shown that tactic onscreen." Not only is that [b] indisputably false
as killing people by merging them with inanimate objects, aka Apoc's signature move, is effectively the same thing as transmuting their organs, but it just literally goes to show that you have to mentally lobotomize Apoc to give Thanos an even remote chance of not immediately dying when the match begins, which says for itself who the obvious true victor of this match is. [/B]
1. The characters I mentioned are extremely durable. Possessing matter manipulation doesn't grant their body resistance against it, so your counter fails. There are plenty of highly durable comic characters who aren't cosmic entities or matter manipulators yet still resist matter manipulation.
2. Inferior durability? Thanos is vastly more durable than Apoc. What makes you think his durability is inferior?
3. While Apoc can't transmute any part of Thanos, I never claimed it's because he didn't show it onscreen; he simply lacks the ability. My point is that combatants fight in character. This isn't about what you would do if you had Apoc's powers; Apoc fights based on his own creativity and tendencies.
Originally posted by h1a8
This isn't member-controlled characters. Characters fight in character, using their own creativity and natural tendencies.
You not only have to prove that Apoc is capable of doing something but also that he would think of it and choose to do it in character.
4. Apoc has never shown the ability to transmute objects contained within another object without first transmuting the outer layer. His transmutation always begins from the outside.
Originally posted by Darth ThorJust with his TK he should give Thanos the same treatment SW gave him in EndGame.
SW destroyed a freaking infinity stone. And even destroyed Thanos blade .which said blade is superior to Cap's shield.
Best Apoc can hope for is a stalemate if he can keep Thanos from getting in close.
Yeah, Apoc wins.
Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube videoYeah, Apoc wins.
Without much trouble to be honest.
Originally posted by tkitna
Without much trouble to be honest.
Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube videoYeah, Apoc wins.
Read the last few posts to catch up. The consensus is that Apoc can't harm Thanos with TK because Thanos is too durable. If you believe Apoc can, then provide feats where he used TK to damage something or someone with high durability.
Originally posted by h1a8
Read the last few posts to catch up. The consensus is that Apoc can't harm Thanos with TK because Thanos is too durable. If you believe Apoc can, then provide feats where he used TK to damage something or someone with high durability.
"the consensus" 😂
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H1's line of thinking and sloppy debate technique -
"There wasn't a character in the X-Men movie that was as boss and durable as Thanos and regardless of any feats, like destroying an entire city to create something else with his TK, i'll just use that as my argument because I just want to stand out and go against conventional common sense to pretend like i'm the smartest person in the room although everybody knows i'm not and it's an idiotic point."
Originally posted by Robtard
I enjoyed the augment that Apoc wouldn't lift or move Thanos around with his TK, even though we see Apoc lifting and moving what amounts to hundreds of thousands of tons.Reeks of desperation, hilarious levels of it.
Why lie? If you're right, let the truth speak for itself. I never said Apoc wouldn't use TK to lift or move Thanos. I said,
For example, I don't see Apocalypse lifting Thanos off the ground and holding him in the air like Scarlet Witch did at the start of their fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
Why lie? If you're right, let the truth speak for itself. I never said Apoc wouldn't use TK to lift or move Thanos. I said,For example, I don't see Apocalypse lifting Thanos off the ground and [b]holding him in the air like Scarlet Witch did
at the start of their fight. [/B]
You claim I lied and then quote yourself where you directly implied doing what I said was being done. I thought you were supposed to be smart.
Originally posted by Robtard
You claim I lied and then quote yourself where you directly implied doing what I said was being done. I thought you were supposed to be smart.
Lifting or moving Thanos with TK ≠ holding him suspended in the air like SW did. I can see Apoc pushing Thanos back with TK (in which he is lifted), but not keeping him suspended midair like SW did.
How did you not understand that?
Originally posted by 9jaboy
Hey I don't get it. Help me out here, Are you saying Apoc would crush Thanos without much trouble or is there something I'm missing here?He can keep him away though as I said earlier.
That's what I said. Your not missing anything. There is no possible way for Thanos to win. Apoc can suspend him helplessly, has force fields that Magneto couldn't even breach, and has powers of matter manipulation among others. Eventuallt Thanos falls. There is no way Thanos can win.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lifting or moving Thanos with TK ≠ holding him suspended in the air like SW did. I can see Apoc pushing Thanos back with TK (in which he is lifted), but not keeping him suspended midair like SW did.How did you not understand that?
How in the world would he not be able to lift and keep him suspended? What can Thanos do to possibly prevent that?
Originally posted by h1a8
Lifting or moving Thanos with TK ≠ holding him suspended in the air like SW did. I can see Apoc pushing Thanos back with TK (in which he is lifted), but not keeping him suspended midair like SW did.How did you not understand that?
You're making a distinction without a difference.
I understand your clown tactics, why I'm calling them out as such.
Originally posted by tkitna
How in the world would he not be able to lift and keep him suspended? What can Thanos do to possibly prevent that?
Originally posted by KingD19If you read the original exchange, you'd know it has nothing to do with ability. The key word Robtard used - and the one you missed - is "wouldn't."
Why can't he keep him suspended? Physically strength can't overpower tk. It's not like he can flex and break out of the invisible force keeping him floating and unable to move.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're making a distinction without a difference.I understand your clown tactics, why I'm calling them out as such.
So you're saying SW holding Thanos in the air for an extended period is no different from Apoc using TK to blow his opponents away through the air?
And I'm the one using clown tactics?