Hal and WW vs Superman

Started by carver923 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao can you even read his post?

He's referencing two separate scenes, you smooth brained idiot.

Moron, im talking about the diner scene he mentioned. I will discuss the second scene later. Maybe you need to stay out of a conversation youre not involved in. Dark, you are weird AF.

Originally posted by carver9
Moron, im talking about the diner scene he mentioned. I will discuss the second scene later. Maybe you need to stay out of a conversation youre not involved in. Dark, you are weird AF.

The femtosecond feat is with Lois, idiot 😂

Originally posted by carver9
Also, how fast do you have to be for the world to be at a standstill? Hercules with Spiderman powers did something similar except bullets were frozen in mid air for him while he sat that and thought about how everything was at a standstill.

Yo, you talking about this?

Because if so, Herc doesn't say anything about bullets being frozen in midair. Unless you have a different scan?

You seemed to have upgraded from your previous statement:

Originally posted by carver9
Also, forgot to post this but Herc with Spiderman powers see bullets (and the world) in slow mo.

Slow mo now becomes frozen in mid air whilst he remarks on how everything is at a standstill, eh?

Damn it's only Monday and your stupidity is already skyhigh 😂

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman and Flash are having a race across the Earth, and during the race, they are moving so fast that they stop into a diner while time is essentially frozen around them. They casually talk and even take a break mid-race. Time is so frozen that the people in the diner are basically statues.

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So this scene had Lois in it?

Originally posted by carver9
So this scene had Lois in it?

Let me spoon-feed you, lmao.

H1 posts:

Originally posted by h1a8

The femtosecond scene where Superman saved Lois.
" In the time it takes a photon to cross the diameter of a hydrogen atom - about a femtosecond - I can see the bullet, the hammer, the trigger finger,... "

Then he repeats:

Originally posted by h1a8
A femtosecond to a nanosecond is like a second to about 11+ days. So in that instance, a nanosecond would have felt like over 11 days to Superman.

You then directly reply to the femtosecond post with:

Originally posted by carver9
Is this the scene youre referencing?
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So tell me if the diner scene has Lois in it lmao.

Also, post the Herc scan please. Let's see if you can salvage some dignity.

Lemme guess - you thought the still images meant that the bullets were frozen in time? Damn, have you only just discovered moving pictures lmao. Wait till I tell you about how I am so fast I appear as a blur in photos, like X-23 😂

IM TALKING ABOUT THE FLASH AND SUPERMAN SCENE HE MENTIONED. I LITERALLY SAID IM DISCUSSING THAT FIRST.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't Superman have to enhance his senses to do that and it wasn't natural like Flash super speed was (always active)? Am I remember this wrong?

Yes, Superman had to exert more effort than Barry just to keep up with him. But Barry has attosecond perception, and with 1,000 attoseconds in a femtosecond, Barry is orders of magnitude faster. That's why Superman had to push himself harder just to stay alongside him. In that same issue, Barry revealed he always allowed Superman to come close in their charity races, but in reality, he was always significantly faster. Superman didn't believe him, so Barry outpaced him like the Road Runner, while both were running at Superman's top speed and time was frozen around the world.
So Barry displayed superspeed while in Superman's speedsped up perception.

That's why I gave the nanosecond feat, Superman doesn't have to push himself to that level of speed. It's very casual at that level.

Thanks for the normal response, H1. I knew that was the scene youre reference. Dark, youre an idiot.

Originally posted by carver9
IM TALKING ABOUT THE FLASH AND SUPERMAN SCENE HE MENTIONED. I LITERALLY SAID IM DISCUSSING THAT FIRST.

Lol you messed up, just admit it. You replied to his femtosecond post, with the diner scene, because you're an idiot and didn't realise there were two scenes until I pointed it out.

Also, where are you with the Herc scan? Don't think you can easily bury that mistake lmao.

I'll respond to your post when I get home.

😂 by all means.

@h1: be wary if he makes bold claims like Herc with Spider powers, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol you messed up, just admit it. You replied to his femtosecond post, with the diner scene, because you're an idiot and didn't realise there were two scenes until I pointed it out.

Also, where are you with the Herc scan? Don't think you can easily bury that mistake lmao.

Dark, shut yow dumb a** up. H1 posted that during the time i put my post together since im driving. You need to mind your business and stop acting clingy on a comic book website.

....you literally quoted his post. Which means he posted first, you read it, you (allegedly) understood it, went to find the scan, and posted your reply.

Calling your idiocy out is hardly clingy, it's hilarious.

While you're at it, also try and get those scans where Daredevil, Elektra and Hulk out pace a bullet with a 100m headstart😂

I did that because he posted over my post. Lol... he responded to it later because I literally asked him tge question after his post. He caught on. Mind... your... business. I'm debating H1, not you.

Originally posted by carver9
I did that because he posted over my post. Lol... he responded to it later because I literally asked him tge question after his post. He caught on. Mind... your... business. I'm debating H1, not you.
uhuh, uhuh.

Yet when I ask about Herc, and literally quote your previous post, you..... completely ignore it?

Because you're naturally ignorable. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I ignore you and ABHI more than anyone on this site.

So which was it? Did Herc see bullets were frozen in mid air for him while he sat that and thought about how everything was at a standstill?

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes, Superman had to exert more effort than Barry just to keep up with him. But Barry has attosecond perception, and with 1,000 attoseconds in a femtosecond, Barry is orders of magnitude faster. That's why Superman had to push himself harder just to stay alongside him. In that same issue, Barry revealed he always allowed Superman to come close in their charity races, but in reality, he was always significantly faster. Superman didn't believe him, so Barry outpaced him like the Road Runner, while both were running at Superman's top speed and time was frozen around the world.
So Barry displayed superspeed while in Superman's speedsped up perception.

That's why I gave the nanosecond feat, Superman doesn't have to push himself to that level of speed. It's very casual at that level.

There's nothing mentioned in that scene about Flash moving in attoseconds.

The nanosecond second ft where time trapper stopped time?

Originally posted by carver9
There's nothing mentioned in that scene about Flash moving in attoseconds.

The nanosecond second ft where time trapper stopped time?

For the nanosecond feat, I gave the issue number and a brief synopsis.

Originally posted by h1a8
Action Comics #642
Hal's ring nearly halted time to the point where a fraction of a nanosecond stretched into several minutes of perception for Hal's spirit. Clark Kent was able to move at superspeed to have a conversation with Hal and move around casually within this time dilation, similar to how the alternate future Gladiator used superspeed to match Thor and the Fantastic Four in their time dilation.

The ring did this autonomously while Hal was unconscious, searching for a suitable replacement since he was gravely injured.

For the diner feat (Superman #709), in that same comic, Barry states he can "perceive events that last for less than an attosecond." While this doesn't prove attoseconds were passing like seconds for Superman, it does clarify that Superman had to exert himself to match Barry's level of perception.

Then I pointed out the femtosecond feat where Superman saved Lois, demonstrating that he was perceiving events on a femtosecond-by-femtosecond basis.

Originally posted by h1a8
For the nanosecond feat, I gave the issue number and a brief synopsis.

For the diner feat (Superman #709), in that same comic, Barry states he can "perceive events that last for less than an attosecond." While this doesn't prove attoseconds were passing like seconds for Superman, it does clarify that Superman had to exert himself to match Barry's level of perception.

Then I pointed out the femtosecond feat where Superman saved Lois, demonstrating that he was perceiving events on a femtosecond-by-femtosecond basis.

There's literally zero evidence of Flash going atroseconds in that scene. Zero. Flash doesnt need to go at those speeds to perform the ft he did. Example, Quicksilver who wasn't even FTL performs the same ft but with super humans around. The world was at a halt. I'm guessing he's attoseconds in speed as well.

The femto speed showing with Superman is hyperbole.