Originally posted by Delta1938
Derrick, for years you used the same argument to say Superman didn't get anymore powerful as you're upset over people not accepting WWH being stronger. 😆
Hasn't there been a Mod ruling about whether or not WWH was the strongest Hulk and whether or not the feats of other versions of Hulk apply to WWH?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is the mod ruling:Good spot.
Well that's the thing. DoS Doomsday, sure ok. Let's not use Hunter Prey Doomsday.
But the Superman he fights isn't limited to DoS alone. Just like when WBH melts Wendigo or BiBeast, we don't ask Carver to prove what Wendigo's energy durability feats are. The BiBeast or Armcheddon that appears, has all of their history and baggage that they've accrued. Same with DoS Doomsday, whose opponent (Superman) gets all of his feats, and we don't treat them as a vacuum.
You're right though, I can always get Galan to tidy it up.
Also, that's the most bias rule ever. Strictly from a forum that caters to DC characters. They explicitly made a section primarily to degrade Hulk and they didn't do it once, they actually did it 3 times. This is why I don't take their ruling serious because this site is bias AF. They have an entire page dedicated to Superman.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well that's the thing. DoS Doomsday, sure ok. Let's not use Hunter Prey Doomsday.But the Superman he fights isn't limited to DoS alone. Just like when WBH melts Wendigo or BiBeast, we don't ask Carver to prove what Wendigo's energy durability feats are. The BiBeast or Armcheddon that appears, has all of their history and baggage that they've accrued. Same with DoS Doomsday, whose opponent (Superman) gets all of his feats, and we don't treat them as a vacuum.
You're right though, I can always get Galan to tidy it up.
I know both of their powers are somewhat dependent on their mental states, but then again according to the Supes fans on this site Supes's strength is dynamic and dependent on his mindset too.
Originally posted by carver9
What about Darwin who was able to absorb Hela power...But admitted Hulk power was too much and infinite...
Lol, so this is a prime example of the double standards and hypocrisy, which we can all see.
Imagine if I came and said, well, what did DARWIN do in the WWH book? Nothing. Let's limit Darwin to what he did in the WWH books. None of this Hela stuff.
Same with Invisible Woman, and Strange. Did Invisible Woman do any nanosecond planetary stuff in the #WWH book? No. Yet, we take their entire histories into account when Hulk beats them.
Same with Doomsday. He physically beat Superman to death, DC's top brick herald. Based on Superman's entire history taken into account, that's a feat. We don't just take Superman's feats in the DoS storyline into account.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Does that apply to WWH and Sentry? What about Sentry and Molecule Man?I know both of their powers are somewhat dependent on their mental states, but then again according to the Supes fans on this site Supes's strength is dynamic and dependent on his mindset too.
See Carv's posts, lol. Darwin can pull feats from X-factor v3 #213, published in 2011, 4 years after WWH. In another thread, Carver brings up Invisible Woman's feats from Dec 2019, so nearly 13 years after the WWH story arc, yet when discussing DoS Doomsday and his feats, his opponents (Superman) is limited to the DoS storyline.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85you lie, wwh was like 3 years ago. 🙁
See Carv's posts, lol. Darwin can pull feats from X-factor v3 #213, published in 2011, 4 years after WWH. In another thread, Carver brings up Invisible Woman's feats from Dec 2019, so nearly 13 years after the WWH story arc, yet when discussing DoS Doomsday and his feats, his opponents (Superman) is limited to the DoS storyline.
I blame......Pr.
But yes, we should clarify. I agree on the general message, but it kinda assumes a scaling that doesn't work in comics.
Colossaunaut doesn't get Colossus' best feats, stacked on top of Juggernaut's beat feats (as he had been given more power by Cytorrak as his most beloved).
Sodomy At doesn't get Kryptonian feats (as Daxamites = Kryptonians) PLUS a GLs power, PLUS Ion.
Cosmic Skyfather Thor doesn't get Thor + Surfer + Odin level feats.
Or maybe they do, and we can just use statements without needing feats to back them up.
OTOH, WWH ran over 40 issues, we should have a good handle of what he can or cannot do. At the same time, him crushing Colossus, for example, doesn't mean we just focus on what Colossus did in that story arc - he still gets whatever feats he had before and after.
I understand what Pr was getting at(he was basically just trying to avoid confusion by isolating versions or w/e), but it does come off as biased and needs to be changed.
That said, I edited that particular section out of the ruling... I just didn't like how it sounded (and the implications it creates.) I'm open to hearing [fair] renditions of the ruling, though, if anyone has some input there...