Punisher vs Joker

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The same way he started Last Laugh, and every other mass killing he's done.

Hell, he's held the united nations hostage with a nuke. You don't ask how. He just does it. We can guess on Doom, or Reed, or Batman, or Prometheus. We know how they think to a degree. We can at least make educated guesses on them.

Not Joker. Joker's plans make no sense to anyone except Batman. Castle won't figure them out. Joker is crazier than pretty much anyone in comics. And I really think you are missing the signigance of that statement.

Even now, I don't understand in what "being crazy" would help him out?

Being crazy make your skull harder, so the bullet don't pierce it?
How do you do booby traps anyway against an ex specialist of an anti-terrorist organisation? Frank is made to beat Joker. Batman avoid the traps, Frank disable them. Batman beat the Joker? Frank ****in' kill him.

He wouldn't even have to enter the building where it is? To many risk? "**** that shit, I blow that ****in' skycrapper. Take that, son of a *****!"

Joker can be as good as he would, but he still a human, and Castle is on a hunt for augmenting his body counts.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yours was bullocks. 😛

Originally posted by Bouboumaster

Joker can be as good as he would, but he still a human, and Castle is on a hunt for augmenting his body counts.

Then that makes Castle a superhuman being. 😕

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Even now, I don't understand in what "being crazy" would help him out?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Being crazy make your skull harder, so the bullet don't pierce it?
How do you do booby traps anyway against an ex specialist of an anti-terrorist organisation? Frank is made to beat Joker. Batman avoid the traps, Frank disable them. Batman beat the Joker? Frank ****in' kill him.

Frank's knowledge of standard disarment would have a greater likely hood to having him make a mistake. because you can't use standard on nonstandard traps.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
He wouldn't even have to enter the building where it is? To many risk? "**** that shit, I blow that ****in' skycrapper. Take that, son of a *****!"

I thought you knew something about Frank...

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Joker can be as good as he would, but he still a human, and Castle is on a hunt for augmenting his body counts.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Joker has hostaged UN like Trickster said.

The United Nation's HQ isn't in Gotham.
Last time I checked it was somewhere in Manhattan, NEW YORK.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
how did that story end? i personally haven't read that one in particular.

Honestly, I haven't read that particular issue.
I just quoted what Trickster said.
So don't go asking me, ask him.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Honestly, I haven't read that particular issue.
I just quoted what Trickster said.
So don't go asking me, ask him.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Joker has hostaged UN like Trickster said.

The United Nation's HQ isn't in Gotham.
Last time I checked it was somewhere in Manhattan, NEW YORK.

This is an interesting piece of history:

Turns out...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gotham
Main Entry: Goth·am
Pronunciation: \ˈgä-thəm\
Function: geographical name
new york city —an informal name
— Goth·am·ite \-thə-ˌmît\ noun

vin

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Isn't that irrelevant? Is the question here who is more skillful or but who wins in h2h? Spiderman is not as skillful as Batman but he still may very well beat Batman in h2h, the fact that hes not as skillful as Batman is neither here nor there.

DD may not be as skillful as Batman but his radar sense compensates him for the lack of skill and due to this he could at least stalemate Batman.

Yes you have you said that Joker beats Pun in prep because he beats Batman, wether you like it or not, its ABC logic. If you can use it for prep then I can use it for h2h. You can't turn around and tell me now that because you haven't used it as much that makes it ok. The fact is you used and it and you did not have a problem with it, so in my opinion you have no right to tell me I can't use it.

I also asked what logic do you want me to use? Could you please explain. Frank has never fought Batman as far as I know so what other evidence can I use apart from DD, Kraven The Hunter, Bullseye etc and compare them to Batman?

With all due respect, no. I felt that I explained in my previous post why this does no neccesarily give Batman the majority.

Well IMO I explained this point in my first post.

Isn't that irrelevant? Is the question here who is more skillful or but who wins in h2h. Spiderman is not as skillful as Batman but he still may very well beat Batman in h2h, the fact that hes not as skillful as Batman is neither here nor there.

DD may not be as skillful as Batman but his radar sense compensates him for the lack of skill and due to this he could at least stalemate Batman.

Plenty of people have held logan off using h2h, who had no superhuman powers and who were injured as well?

IMO opinion this does not mean that Batman wins because Frank has held his own against top tiers. Now some of these people may not be as skillful as Batman but their powers or abilities make them able to stalemate top tiers. For example Captain America is blantantly top tier and it could be argued that he is better skillwise because he does not have a radar sense, this still did not stop DD from stalemating him in h2h.

Originally posted by Juntai
I doubt Frank would want to run into Batman however.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
This is an interesting piece of history:

Turns out...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gotham
Main Entry: Goth·am
Pronunciation: \ˈgä-thəm\
Function: geographical name
new york city —an informal name
— Goth·am·ite \-thə-ˌmît\ noun

vin

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i still think joker wins due to superior planning ability... ten times out of ten? no, but the majority, yes indeedy...

Originally posted by Raoul
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i still think joker wins due to superior planning ability... ten times out of ten? no, but the majority, yes indeedy...

As I pointed out Jokers is... well outside of the box.

Originally posted by Starscream M
They each have a week to kill each other. Who will succeed?

Location: NYC

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Okay going back to the first post!

The joker isnt from nyc, things would be a little strange for him at first, but he will adapt! Set up some little warehouse and create his materplan, one of many.

Frank would be reasrching the joker, finding out what he is like, then finding out where he is based.

Frank uses his sniper skills, spots him, comes back later on with explosions to blow up the warehouse. But the joker is one up on him and what frank doesnt realise is that he has infact killed a clone of the joker.. Has been done befor..

BUT IN THE END THE PUNISHER WILL WIN DUE TO HIM ARMY/SNIPER TRAINING.
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Oh and

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
yeah, you know what, you're right. I think Frank wins now.

Still, Marea doesn't know anything 😆

*pokes out tongue*

the pro-joker arguments so far: shit

Originally posted by Creshosk
yeah, most of franks plans as seen from this thread is "use a better weapon"

As I pointed out Jokers is... well outside of the box.

i don't think joker could see the box with a telescope from where he is...

Originally posted by Badwolf
Okay going back to the first post!

The joker isnt from nyc, things would be a little strange for him at first, but he will adapt! Set up some little warehouse and create his materplan, one of many.

Frank would be reasrching the joker, finding out what he is like, then finding out where he is based.

Remember Joker doesn't exist in the marvel comics. So How do you research them? They have no history, no records of anything.

Originally posted by Badwolf
Frank uses his sniper skills, spots him,[/b

Originally posted by Badwolf
[B] comes back later on with explosions to blow up the warehouse.

Originally posted by Badwolf
But the joker is one up on him and what frank doesnt realise is that he has infact killed a clone of the joker.. Has been done befor..

BUT IN THE END THE PUNISHER WILL WIN DUE TO HIM ARMY/SNIPER TRAINING.
Opps caps!

Originally posted by Sado22
the pro-joker arguments so far: shit

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Originally posted by Sado22
the anti-joker arguments so far: shit

"He snipes him."

Yeah... that's so totally... :rollseyes:

In a city of over 8 million people, Punisher will just happen to find the guy whom doesn't exist.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The same way he started Last Laugh, and every other mass killing he's done.

Hell, he's held the united nations hostage with a nuke. You don't ask how. He just does it. We can guess on Doom, or Reed, or Batman, or Prometheus. We know how they think to a degree. We can at least make educated guesses on them.

Not Joker. Joker's plans make no sense to anyone except Batman. Castle won't figure them out. Joker is crazier than pretty much anyone in comics. And I really think you are missing the signigance of that statement.

Again why are we assuming that Joker can beat Castle when hes survived people who have better prep feats eg Dr Doom and High Evolutinary?

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If his plans dont make sense to anyone why is it Batgirl has escaped his death traps and pyshced him out? Why Has Jason Todd kidnapped The Joker and psyched him out?

Furthermore isn't there no otuside help? Doesn't Joker always employ goons?

Frank kidnapas Harley and draws him out. Joker is in love with Harley. 😬

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Frank kidnapas Harley and draws him out. Joker is in love with Harley. 😬

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That hasn't been proven.
DC >>> your speculations.

Not really Punisher has stolen from Dr Doom who has better prep feats than The Joker.

All you guys keep saying is Punisher is going to lsoe despite the evidence presented.

As stated earlier Less intelligent people than Batman have beaten Joker. 😬

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Not really Punisher has stolen from Dr Doom who has better prep feats than The Joker.

All you guys keep saying is Punisher is going to lsoe despite the evidence presented.

As stated earlier Less intelligent people than Batman have beaten Joker. 😬

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