Curryman's Meta-Amalgam Tourney!

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Im curious as I might of missed something. I could of sworn I saw you get resources from all three picks.. Does that mean you get the weapons/tech of the body mind and powers (if it has tech origin like implants) ?

I humored the idea of taking part and ended up thinking of Noh-Varr as an option and wasn't sure if his mind would need to be picked to use his super kree tech or if it came with his body since it's his gear. Sometimes the rules here just don't process right in my head lol

We're at fault.

The rules were changed and I've yet to have Bada update them. Apologies.

We changed the resource bit because it would essentially change the entire tourney into a resource-grab. It's supposed to be a factor, but not that big of a factor 😛

Originally posted by Digi
Beetle or Machine Man are the obvious pairings. Any in-match tech construct would need to be meta level though, if I read curry right. A herald-level tech amp would likely be ruled against.

Weapons, what is a high-meta weapon? How many hits would it take to down a high-meta? I leave this one up to the judges.

Originally posted by "Id"
Which bodies got denied Beat?

Golden age Kent Nelson ( as depicted in more fun comics. 75 toend if GA and All star Squadron - half helmet limited magic era when he relied more on his physical abilities)

Jarred Stephens ( Fate)

Both Re between 70 to 80 Tonners ( Nelson maybe slightly less, in ASShe was often compared to supermnan. That was however 1940 Superman which was arou d the time he was starting to be upgraded he could fly by 41)
Around rhe same level durbility to though his lungs were normal)

Denied by me in PM.

Not because of their strength and durability.

Originally posted by curryman
Denied by me in PM.

Not because of their strength and durability.

If you dont mind my asking if not that why? as a body pick that is all I'd get from either. every other a ikitt those versions bave is either from mind ( in Nao s case taught) or from power.

Originally posted by beatboks
If you dont mind my asking if not that why? as a body pick that is all I'd get from either. every other a ikitt those versions bave is either from mind ( in Nao s case taught) or from power.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

Any bruiser i high meta is above class 70.

If that's all you want then you can just go nuts there 😛

Originally posted by curryman
If all you wanted was a body then I don't understand what you would open yourself up to the Pre-Crisis controversy?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html

Any bruiser i high meta is above class 70.

If that's all you want then you can just go nuts there 😛

o_O controversy, I deliberately picked the weakest version of all in Kent Nelson. Golden age is from 1938 to 1948. that version was lower than anything post coie. As I pointed out and tried to show with the scans I PM'd you Golden Age version ( as with almost all GA characters) was weaker than anything either pre and post COIE. That was why I queiried your call on inconsistency. Silver Age and all post COiE versions of Dr Fate have never been low powered enough to have to rely on their physical stats. they all have maybe one showing using them and it's way over the 100 ton range because all had the Helm that gave most of the magical power and enhanced everything. Golden Age Kent gave it up because he became aware it was taking him over.
Golden Age version even with magic was lower than post COIE ( much lower ) and was more of an energy manipulator who absorbed energy from things or himslef and transfered it.

As for Jarred he didn't exist pre COIE. the only Fate pre COIE was Kent with the GA and the SA versions. post COIE Kent eventually handed the mantle to Eric and Linda Strause who the. handed it back to Kent's wife Inza. when they died it was Jarred. the after Mordru killed him Hector Carter finally Kent V.

I Confused.

doesnt matter I'm sticking with what I got, I just thought the limitwas lower due to rejection. if that's cool than objection withdrawn.

The possible controversy surrounding a pre-crisis character, especially one from way, way back.

I assumed you had something else planned when you drafted a character from the 40s with mediocre physical stats and the possibility for other stuff. Should've checked first how familiar you were with the the tier list and the limitations. Sorry about that 🙂

this seems interesting

ahhh I see. No nothing like that. I'm just an old fart whi hasn't read to many comics since the early 90's I'm a shite load more familiar with characters from the 40's to 70's. As a kid in the 60's I haunted book exchanges buying comics by the dozen for bery little and have all but 8 issues of All Star comics, More Fun Comics( 55 to 61, 65 to 89 missing 81 and have dr Fates only 89 to 96 in a reprint ), All American ( missing 11 between 15 and 103), 10 issues of Flash Anthology, 6 All Flash, American cavalcade (missing 3 of first 29), 6 Star Spangled, 4 Leading ( seven soldiers), Adventure comics (43 to 49, 55 to 61, 70 to 79), 59 issues of action between # 17 and 163, plus a coulle of worlds finest and Sensation. .

Through the 60's I used to get around 35 to 40 comics a month, in the 70's and 80's closer to 60 ( used to trek over to the newsagent at work lunch time and buy at least 2 or 3 a day. I stopped collecting almost everything but Hellblaser, LEGION/ REBELS and Daredevil in the Early 90's ( courtesy of DC killing my favorite team of theirs( JSA)and Marvel forgettiing my favorite of theirs ( Defenders)

either original or reprint not in great shape ( god I wish ) but I have heaps of scans and issues to refer to and have read most many times. I'm just better equiped tk debate old characters. I mean hey I'm one of the few you will find anywhere who is an actual fan of the MLJ/ Red Circle Mighty Crusader Team.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I just saw this.

If someone has shields up or a solid defense, creating tech in match won't be so difficult. I'm curious as to what Qubit has (and if he paired with someone like say Blue Beetle) what he could create in-match - not something someone has to answer btw. I'm just curious because I'm often the guy who goes for tech plays. I can't wait for the tournament.

And I always thought the mind category was a bit broken in the past regarding this level of tourney often times because we would put a limit on powers but never a limit on tech or intelligence thus it almost became adamant that you either draft a mind character with extreme tech feats and someone to to quickly build them or you were at best a herald character going against at least a cosmic cube or greater 😛

It looks like this tourney may finally fix that weird loophole imo 😛

Originally posted by beatboks
Jarred Stephens ( Fate)

Why would Jared Stevens be not allowed as a body pick? 😕

I can maybe understand a powers pick (maybe), but as a body pick he seems just fine.

Originally posted by Newjak
It looks like this tourney may finally fix that weird loophole imo 😛

I doubt it very much.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Why would Jared Stevens be not allowed as a body pick? 😕

I can maybe understand a powers pick (maybe), but as a body pick he seems just fine.

I doubt it very much.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Why would Jared Stevens be not allowed as a body pick? 😕

It looks like Curryman though that may involve more than it actually did. I would have thought it was ok, but to be fair I only mentioned a couple of his lower showings in PM not linked scans as I did for nelson. Like the time he was hit with Trank darts that did put him down but not until after his enemy fled the scene ( and took "enough tranquilizer to put down a herd of elephants" to do so)

Originally posted by Blair Wind I can maybe understand a powers pick (maybe), but as a body pick he seems just fine. [/B]

Yeah I would NOT want his powers as a pick AT ALL. All that would give me really is his damn sight and immunity to magic. the sight gives him the ability to through deception, see the fate or potential of things and see portents of reality. plus see spatial lines of power that he can travel on ( teleport). I'm not even sure if it would give him the knife and ankh darts (technically they were once the talismans of Dr Fate and were the source of his power, but technically they are gear so a mind pick). Without them and their ability to cut through anything hit any intended target ( even if they have to go around things to do it) and cause harm to ANYTHING even protected things, and cause magic great pain. Even with the knives NOT a great pick AT ALL, without them all but useless.

I have no issues with any picks so far, surprisingly enough.

The Cpt. Britain pick is somewhat confusing though. There's a blurry line between his body and his powers (and frankly, his mind, which may grant him the amulet and his mental control). Curry, have you talked things through with his drafter to explain what he would and wouldn't get?

He hasn't needed the amulet since the 70s I thought.

He would get the physical abilities of Captain Britain, as well as flight and so on.

Captain Britain is fine. His powers are now innate, and do not require the amulet or a costume.

Originally posted by curryman
He hasn't needed the amulet since the 70s I thought.

He would get the physical abilities of Captain Britain, as well as flight and so on.

Fine on the amulet. But you mention physical abilities. How is that not a Body thing?

No problems with his powers - energy, flight, and whatnot - but I'm talking about strength/durability/etc. And it seems like you're saying he'd inherit stuff like durability as a Powers pick. Am I not interpreting it correctly?

Originally posted by Digi
Fine on the amulet. But you mention physical abilities. How is that not a Body thing?

No problems with his powers - energy, flight, and whatnot - but I'm talking about strength/durability/etc. And it seems like you're saying he'd inherit stuff like durability as a Powers pick. Am I not interpreting it correctly?

Yup, he is inheriting most if not all his powers, even the physical ones. Same with Spiderman draft, he would get all his physical prowess, plus the ESP, n shiz.

Curry purposely left this open to be exploited.

Physical abilities were always available as power picks.

Body was just more limited.

Nelson Jent
Interesting.
mhmm