Batman vs. John McClane

Started by Rogue Jedi55 pages

Is this the screeching device that is being discussed?

YouTube video

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Better that than "ZOMG its Batman!!! Just cuz its Batman!!!" There were just as many arguing for Mac as there was Batman, BTW. 😉

That was not my argument at all. That is just a taunting thing to say. 3 for John McClane against...more than 3 for batman.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
My argument was that Batman has never faced anyone remotely as good as Mac, armed with a damn machine gun. Your argument was that Batman was faster than the speed of sound. My argument was based on scientific fact and the laws of physics, your argument was based on Batman fanboyism. Any and all argument for the Bat was countered and buried. Deal with it.

You are being highly unrealistic. I had asked you to supply feats and evidence that shows McClane's skills and talents that make him more of a gunslinger than anyone else. The way I see it, and the way shown in the movies - is that he's as good as a cop with gun.

No one claimed Batman was faster than the speed of sound. You are being highly derogatory of our claims, and trying to insult our credibility - a tactic I find highly distasteful, not to mention sad. I don't appreciate you calling me a fanboy of Batman. It's a last minute effort to claim fallacy with someone's arguments, and is not a term that should be used in a debate where I am supplying feats and evidence.

Your claims of burying our Batman arguments are notwithstanding, equaled out to you saying "McClane has a gun and Batman can't avoid somebody with a gun." You know this is false, but for some reason, you refuse to act with sincerity, and are being stubborn.

Debating with you had become redundant and pointless, as you have refused to listen to anyone. Not to mention you were offending plenty of us by claiming we were "butthurt" and displaying "batboy fanboyism." You had derailed a thread that would have been a fun debate, into a madhouse of calling us names.

Having said that - I don't find you any fun to discuss movies and movie characters with.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You wanna discuss that fight, got to that thread, I only mentioned it as the reason this spite thread was started. But I guess you think this thread isn't spite then? 🙄

It is uncalled for and hypocritical of you to bring this to BruceSkywalker's attention. It was you after-all who created the thread "Bruce Wayne vs Nakatomi Plaza" and then laughed at the first person who thought Bruce would be able to come out on top.

You are a dangerous fool who should be sent west - You have forgotten the face of your father.

Oops.... haermm

Originally posted by Quincy
That was not my argument at all. That is just a taunting thing to say. 3 for John McClane against...more than 3 for batman.

You are being highly unrealistic. I had asked you to supply feats and evidence that shows McClane's skills and talents that make him more of a gunslinger than anyone else. The way I see it, and the way shown in the movies - is that he's as good as a cop with gun.

No one claimed Batman was faster than the speed of sound. You are being highly derogatory of our claims, and trying to insult our credibility - a tactic I find highly distasteful, not to mention sad. I don't appreciate you calling me a fanboy of Batman. It's a last minute effort to claim fallacy with someone's arguments, and is not a term that should be used in a debate where I am supplying feats and evidence.

Your claims of burying our Batman arguments are notwithstanding, equaled out to you saying "McClane has a gun and Batman can't avoid somebody with a gun." You know this is false, but for some reason, you refuse to act with sincerity, and are being stubborn.

Debating with you had become redundant and pointless, as you have refused to listen to anyone. Not to mention you were offending plenty of us by claiming we were "butthurt" and displaying "batboy fanboyism." You had derailed a thread that would have been a fun debate, into a madhouse of calling us names.

Having said that - I don't find you any fun to discuss movies and movie characters with.

It is uncalled for and hypocritical of you to bring this to BruceSkywalker's attention. It was you after-all who created the thread "Bruce Wayne vs Nakatomi Plaza" and then laughed at the first person who thought Bruce would be able to come out on top.

You are a dangerous fool who should be sent west - You have forgotten the face of your father.

RJ, he just got all up in yo face!!

Quince. RJ's right in this instance.

I supplied evidence that McClane is an excellent shot with a literally all the luck in the world on his side.

Its misrepresentation to assert the reductionist position that he is just some guy with a gun.

Its about "can Batman move fast enough to avoid an unexpected shot to the face from an ambush postion.." and "No" is the answer to that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Is this the screeching device that is being discussed?

YouTube video

Anyone? Hmm?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Quince. RJ's right in this instance.

I supplied evidence that McClane is an excellent shot with a literally all the luck in the world on his side.

Its misrepresentation to assert the reductionist position that he is just some guy with a gun.

Its about "can Batman move fast enough to avoid an unexpected shot to the face from an ambush postion.." and "No" is the answer to that.

it's not an ambush position, and bats is more level-headed that mcclane in this situation

Thats pure speculation.

I'd say that a man who dresses up as a bat is not more level headed than anyone. Bruce Wayne is very troubled man.

McClane has showed a cooler head throughout.

Re: Batman vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Impediment
John sees Batman and doesn't know what the f*ck to think.
Originally posted by Impediment
Batman sees John and thinks he is one of the terrorists.

Re: Re: Batman vs. John McClane

Originally posted by blandy86

actually i have to change my answer to mcclane.i just reread the rules.i assumed that bats and mcclane were doing it quickdraw style, but it says mcclane advances on bats so...
i have to contemplate more on this

He also may have not known what to think of that Mongolian looking dude when he shot him like 7 times immediately after said dude opened the door on McClane.. Same result though.

Re: Re: Re: Batman vs. John McClane

Originally posted by blandy86
actually i have to change my answer to mcclane.i just reread the rules.i assumed that bats and mcclane were doing it quickdraw style, but it says mcclane advances on bats so...
i have to contemplate more on this

Fair enough. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He also may have not known what to think of that Mongolian looking dude when he shot him like 7 times immediately after said dude opened the door on McClane.. Same result though.
Exactly. Bat supporters think Batman will spring into action right away while McClane stands there like a dumbass.

Marco: "Next time you have the chance to kill someone, don't hestitate...."

BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM..!

McClane: "Thanks for the advice"

And when he was talking to Hans and the elevator doors opened.

Indeed. Immediately leapt into action running to the side, getting the lateral movement going, and firing.

But for some strange reason, he would freeze up here. Weird.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

McClane has showed a cooler head throughout.

Exactly, even when his daughter is kidnapped and threatened with death, he keeps a cool measure.

Batman lost his cool cuz of a clown, a clown.

😂

And not even a really scary one like Pennywise.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Exactly. Bat supporters think Batman will spring into action right away while McClane stands there like a dumbass.

And vice versa.

I just can't let this circle jerk go on anymore. McClane dodged automatic gunfire. Batman has infinitely more training than McClane. Therefore, Batman can dodge gunfire more accurately and thus have time for a batarang shot to Johns head. The End.