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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link has the spiritual stone of the forest, and access to Princess Zelda, who has the ocarina of time, and gives it to Link.Link assembles the stones, and does all the work for Ganon, openning the door of time.
I lol'd.
Things that are explicitly plot devices, are plot devices. The fact they're needed to beat Ganon is sort of related to that, y'know?
Both have shown themselves to be powerful, and are stated to be so, you have no argument.
Canonically hes had few things actually hit him, so whether or not he can be killed by something else, saying their the only things that can kill him is a no limit fallacy.
Nah, MS is not powerful, its a sword/key, thats all.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Who is not as powerful as Ganon? I know it is hard to read for you BT, you should prolly work on that before posting on the forums. Link needs only his sword to kill most creatures in the game. He was an advisor. He could not muster an army. The Gerudos? A bunch of skinny desert women kill Link, when hordes of monsters could not? GTFO.2. Considering Link's holy items can seal Ganondorf, they>>>Paladins. It takes a few items created by world making Gods. God made sword>>>Random Pally. Light Arrows utterly annihilate anything but Ganon that they are shot at, they only stun Ganondorf. Ganon underestimates his foes? Is that why he makes sure to safeguard every threat Link could use, and is that why the first thing he had Zant do was subdue the Light Spirits?
3. With gigantic monsters no normal child can defeat, but Link does? Oh...And he DOES destroy an island so that Link cannot claim an item that can be used against him. He freezes over a city for the same purpose, and he killed/captured the Gorons, a race of super strong living rocks, to keep the Fire Temple safeguarded. He also resurrected an ancient dragon.
4. A kid who kills monsters every five minutes? Oh, and you can fight castle guards, Link easily fells them. He went to fight Aghanim and told Link to run, we do not see it. And Aghanim was not really all that powerful. And no, **** you, I'm not getting anything for someone who doesn't even play the games they claim to know so much about.
1. Link without MS or light arrows, hell even with them hes technically weaker. he was a respected adviser with the ear of the king, and as Scenario said, he could control the army. hordes of daft monsters who prob shove themselves into a fight, if these Gerudo are skilled thieves a few of them shield be able to stealth him.
2. When has Ganondorf been wounded by any weapon other than the MS? the only other one that I have seen is the light sword the sages used and that pierced through him. Paladins have a vast amount of holy powers, armour, and weaponry as well as training>>>Link vs Ganon. Names and titles lol....not sure I have seen a cutscene of the arrows one hitting something. Safeguard it with poor defences, with all his powers you would have thought he can do better than a few weak monsters that a child can beat.
3. Link has no reason to be any more wise than any child, or skilled for that matter, the fact he surpasses it is just as likely a reason for them being weak, more so than him being strong since apart from all his items hes not had any special powers granted him.
4. been covered.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. A couple of people? The dungeons/temples are consistently filled with numerous monsters, traps, and at least one "boss" monster to hinder Link. You would send your entire force to guard a single item? Why? So it would be pathetically easy for Link to get the other items? =| Your idea of tactics is humorous.He's not a normal child. That is what you consistently ignore. The moment Link walked into the Deku Tree and killed Gohma with a sword and slingshot, he stopped being a normal Child.
2. Link is more than one, as everyone has pointed at, but you consistently ignore. Moblins are bigger than adult humans, and Link can block their blows and kill them. Obviously, any child is capable of such feats, right?
3. Link is a child who is able to fight his way through armies and solve complex traps, though you would not know that as you have never played the game, yet are somehow of the impression you know what you are talking about and are not an egotistical buffoon. My "proof" is the fact that Link is able to solve these traps and maneuver these dungeons and do all he does, which PROVES Link is not the average child, the average child cannot navigate an ocean by himself. You ASSUME they are pathetic, you can do nothing but assume since you never ****ing played the games. Since when? Gee, maybe when Ganon killed the king in OoT and left Hyrule city in chaos? Or maybe when the Gorons, super strong rock people, attempted but were killed/captured.
4. He gets beaten because he is usually not in a position to physically stop Link himself, and his minions are not powerful enough to stop Link. He always safeguards threats to him, but of course in typical Burning Fanboy fashion you will ignore my post and make the same claim next one.
Arrows which completely disintegrate any enemy but Ganon, and a sword which is among the only weapons that can harm Ganon. Link also has physical strength via magic items that place him at able to lift multiple tons each game, how strong they are varies each game. Link almost always gets magic armor in the game.
1. Certainly if it meant I cannot be stopped if he cannot get said item, get to said NPC to be told about another secret etc etc, without the light/silver arrows Link is hopeless, without the MS hes hopeless, without all the sages, Zelda, and the knowledge he gains from his various side kicks he would not have got as far. "numerous" probably meaning a few in each room?
He killed a guy so hes not a child? physically and mentally hes shown to be a child, unless you have legit cinematics to prove he is somehow a genius and is innately physically powerful.
2. Your assuming the Moblin is as strong as it looks yet you take no time is wondering if Link is actually as weak as he looks and the Moblin is the one who is actually weaker than he looks. Your argument is pretty much "link is small but powerful" but the Moblin is big, therefore a normal child could not beat it. From canon, we know Links not that much more (if not less so) intelligent or strong than a child.
3. I do know this, that does not mean the traps are advanced or the monsters are powerful. Your proof is apprently just the opposite of my proof, my proof is based on facts however not assumption. Links a child, fact, the puzzles are beaten therefore the puzzles and monsters are pathetic. Then you have to throw in the opposite only yours is an assumption, your assuming Link is somehow superhuman and mentally masterful because he can do them.
4. pff not powerful enough, their just pathetic and do not finish the job, Zant for example, Agahim (possessed by Ganon no less) and all these beasts Ganon unleashes. You know how serious the LK would be taken if a child defeated all his minions and reached him in Icecrown? not at all, the armies of the Horde and alliance would have laughed about him, which is what they will prob do when they find Ganon getting beaten by the local children wherever he decides to setup.
"Among the only weapons", based on? a few fallible statements from entities who have tried everything? (I doubt it). These items you realise are fairly featless? thats like me saying a Warcraft level 1 character can beat Ganon because they can get magic items and armour from the beginning of the game 😛