Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
There is context but did in fact affected the time stream. I still think it requires more force to alter the time stream than to shatter a world.

And this particular sm feat, imo is not a world shattering feat but a time altering feat via physical force. With context behind, but still more impresive than others.

Only kryptonians involved in that arc achieved the same results. I honestly do not know why this feat was being presented as a world shattering feat, when it does not need to be

This guy right here is amazing. 🙂

[QUOTE=14351658]Originally posted by Silent Master

Edit: Never mind, just checked page 41.

I thought that this was settled when superman needed thors hammer to bust through something when superman punches could not? Supermans hardest punch is not even in the same class as thors hammer slams.There are things that thor has destroyed, busted open or cracked that superman could not even scratch. 43 pages long.WOW.

Originally posted by JBL
I thought that this was settled when superman needed thors hammer to bust through something when superman punches could not? Supermans hardest punch is not even in the same class as thors hammer slams.There are things that thor has destroyed, busted open or cracked that superman could not even scratch. 43 pages long.WOW.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Points to the multiple posts explaining the context involved in that scene.

Again, right now Thor is the winner....but any given day that could change.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
There is context but did in fact affected the time stream. I still think it requires more force to alter the time stream than to shatter a world.

And this particular sm feat, imo is not a world shattering feat but a time altering feat via physical force. With context behind, but still more impresive than others.

Only kryptonians involved in that arc achieved the same results. I honestly do not know why this feat was being presented as a world shattering feat, when it does not need to be

Which just goes to show you how much context was involved when Kal-L and Kal-El were fighting on an empty construct Earth-2 against the backdrop of a fluxing DC Multiverse upheaval not rivaled in DC comics history... while Lois Lane-2's body lies neatly on some rubble completely untouched and safe for the entire time.

Context helps.

Originally posted by JBL
I thought that this was settled when superman needed thors hammer to bust through something when superman punches could not? Supermans hardest punch is not even in the same class as thors hammer slams.There are things that thor has destroyed, busted open or cracked that superman could not even scratch. 43 pages long.WOW.

Gonna have to start making mod rulings for some of you people. You obviously can't be trusted to drop things even when asked to.

Originally posted by ODG
Only Kryptonians? It's fortuitous that you mention them. Because a stronger Superman Prime in a wilder punchfest with Kal-L and Kal-El didn't achieve any sort of timestream busting when the DC Multiverse was compressed into a single, stable New Earth universe.

Which just goes to show you how much context was involved when Kal-L and Kal-El were fighting on an empty construct Earth-2 against the backdrop of a fluxing DC Multiverse upheaval not rivaled in DC comics history... while Lois Lane-2's body lies neatly on some rubble completely untouched and safe for the entire time.

Context helps. Non-canon.

Issue ref?

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Again, right now Thor is the winner....but any given day that could change.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Issue ref?

Originally posted by ODG
Infinite Crisis #7.

When they were punching each other on The surface of Mogo?

^ When Superman Prime was slugging Kal-El and Kal-L before they ever reached Krypton's red sun. Nice try.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Gonna have to start making mod rulings for some of you people. You obviously can't be trusted to drop things even when asked to.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
There is context but did in fact affected the time stream. I still think it requires more force to alter the time stream than to shatter a world.

And this particular sm feat, imo is not a world shattering feat but a time altering feat via physical force. With context behind, but still more impresive than others.

Only kryptonians involved in that arc achieved the same results. I honestly do not know why this feat was being presented as a world shattering feat, when it does not need to be

At least you aren't pretending there was any physical aspect to it and the shattering of the world was simply a metaphor.

The time stream was affected, but it was their own personal histories, not the time stream.

And it was also in large part due to the circumstances of Infinite Crisis. In this case, the writer clarified it to be a result of them being Universal counterparts.

This is why I think there should be a "feat challenge BZ" rule here where if ppl can challenge other ppl's interpretation of a "feat" via a time/post-limited BZ and if they lose or refuse the BZ, their interpretation per the rules will be inadmissible.

Too many debates over the same "feats" going in circles and being brought back again and again.

I'll take full credit on digging this up again...

buahahaha..

Originally posted by psycho gundam
feats that were wanked for ages finally get some light shown upon them and they're coming up transparent. this is part of the thread, no?

Except that some of those feats are ones that have already been exposed, and weren't supposed to be brought up again.

I think the main problem is that some posters aren't aware of the "exposed" truth on certain "feats" as we're new and have no way to efficiently look it up. That is why certain "feat interpretation" can still be brought in and why some posters still need to come in to debate the correct interpretation of it.

That is why a "feat interpretation" BZ would be a good idea. This will effectively resolve the issue of multiple interpretation of "feats" and simplify debates to "who wins?" rather than persistent "what does this scan really mean?" arguments that turn into flame wars.

Hehe, tho, admittedly I'm really pushing for the whole "feat interpretation" BZ subforum as I enjoy debating accuracy on "feat" interpretation than I am at debating "who wins".

I agree with Nibecus and a thread like that will help tremendously. I have a Hulk ft that tends to get brought up every now and then and some people accept it and some people discredit it and I would like a respectful poster to tell me if its legit or not.