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Eye Beams Vs Hand Beams
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Utrigita
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magnetos daugther, what a father is law wink


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Im going with the hands. I can shoot in 2 different dsirections that way. With the eyes, they are pretty much gonna be the same direction parallel to each other. That kinda sucks.


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The Vision is probably the weirdest in-law Magneto will ever have. What can you say when your daughter dates a robot?


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Originally posted by Bentley
The Vision is probably the weirdest in-law Magneto will ever have. What can you say when your daughter dates a robot?


"I must have been a bad father my daughter is dating a Robot that can defeat the entire avengers" wink


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Eye Beams Vs Hand Beams

All else being equal: eyebeams. Advantages...

1. Faster and easier to look at something than point your hand.
2. More accurate. If you're looking at it, you're on target (and while you might be able to shoot in two different directions with your hands, you can still only look in one direction at a time to aim).
3. Less conspicuous, harder to anticipate.
4. Glowing eyes (should one choose this option) do look cooler than glowing fists because "the eyes are the window to the soul," thus suggesting powerful energies emanating from the very core of one's being.


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Originally posted by Soljer
You can't just glance? I mean, if you're gonna aim with your hands, you're gonna have to look in the general direction anyways.

I'd say, assuming the power is the same, that eye beams would be better. Mostly due to accuracy, and stealth.


This raises a really interesting point

do the beams fire straight out from the eye sockets (ala superman and cyclops) or from the pupil of the eye itself?

Most often, humans do not turn their head the whole way to look at things, they just move their eyes. So, if the beams do fire straight out of the face, you would still have to take time to properly target something with your head as opposed to just looking at it out of the corner of your eye. It would still be quicker than your hand, but the range of things you can directly face is much smaller than the range of things you can see.

lol, and if the beams are generated by the pupils, then it would be almost impossible to hit something. Saccidic movement refers to very small and quick movements your eyes make every second, averaging like 6-7 a second. They are unconscious and uncontrollable smile Eyebeams like this would be more like shotguns than precision instruments.

but wow am i a nerd

anyways, hand beams for multi directional blasts


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Versatility could possibly go to HB's though , you could melt objects at a touch , reinforce your punches and possibly do the whole 'Punch the ground energy shockwave' shtick.


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Originally posted by inamilist
This raises a really interesting point

do the beams fire straight out from the eye sockets (ala superman and cyclops) or from the pupil of the eye itself?

Most often, humans do not turn their head the whole way to look at things, they just move their eyes. So, if the beams do fire straight out of the face, you would still have to take time to properly target something with your head as opposed to just looking at it out of the corner of your eye. It would still be quicker than your hand, but the range of things you can directly face is much smaller than the range of things you can see.

lol, and if the beams are generated by the pupils, then it would be almost impossible to hit something. Saccidic movement refers to very small and quick movements your eyes make every second, averaging like 6-7 a second. They are unconscious and uncontrollable smile Eyebeams like this would be more like shotguns than precision instruments.

but wow am i a nerd

anyways, hand beams for multi directional blasts


Wow talk about over analyzing stick out tongue

Based on how EyeBeams work in comics none of that should be a problem.


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Another interesting point/question: what does the world look like to someone who's shooting energy out of his/her eyes?


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Another interesting point/question: what does the world look like to someone who's shooting energy out of his/her eyes?


I assume it depends on the color of the EyeBeam . . .


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Wow talk about over analyzing stick out tongue

Based on how EyeBeams work in comics none of that should be a problem.


LOL

ya, i do try really hard sometimes smile

The first part should actually be a problem (ie, you would loose some ability to target things with eye beams due to head movement being more restricted then hand movement) but ya, the seccade stuff is just me blowing smoke out of the bum

Honestly, it seems like a really even balance between speed and versatility on the eye vs hand thing


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Originally posted by inamilist
LOL

ya, i do try really hard sometimes smile

The first part should actually be a problem (ie, you would loose some ability to target things with eye beams due to head movement being more restricted then hand movement) but ya, the seccade stuff is just me blowing smoke out of the bum

Honestly, it seems like a really even balance between speed and versatility on the eye vs hand thing


Well its hard to target at anything you can't see (unless you have some additional supersensory power or decades of MA experience). Also you could just turn your whole body to face an opponent.

I think that EyeBeams have the additional advantage of also making it so that if someone ties of you hands you can still blast them.


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Well its hard to target at anything you can't see (unless you have some additional supersensory power or decades of MA experience). Also you could just turn your whole body to face an opponent.

I think that EyeBeams have the additional advantage of also making it so that if someone ties of you hands you can still blast them.


...But then you can't blast off your bonds. Wheras if you had handblasts you'd be incapable of having your wrists tied.


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Saccidic movement refers to very small and quick movements your eyes make every second, averaging like 6-7 a second.

Eyebeam energy discharge temporarily stifles the saccades, thanks to evolution. Those superorganisms in which eyebeam firing did not stifle the saccades (making target-strike less likely) were less likely to survive and have offspring.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well its hard to target at anything you can't see (unless you have some additional supersensory power or decades of MA experience). Also you could just turn your whole body to face an opponent.

I think that EyeBeams have the additional advantage of also making it so that if someone ties of you hands you can still blast them.


hehe

its not that you can't see them, its that there is a big difference between "looking" at something and "aiming" your head at something. Honestly, the majority of the time when you are looking at something, your head is not directly facing it.

Very true on the last part, though hand beams could theoretically get out of being bound unless it is a special alloy metal or whatever, but then the same could be said for blindfolds of the like smile

I can see advantage to both of them, I just prefer the advantages of handbeams. The speed and accuracy advantages, once accustomed to the power, are going to be almost negligible and the multi directional shooting is something I'd really like.


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Eyebeam energy discharge temporarily stifles the saccades, thanks to evolution. Those superorganisms in which eyebeam firing did not stifle the saccades (making target-strike less likely) were less likely to survive and have offspring.


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Handbeams, hands down.

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Originally posted by inamilist
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Handbeams. Imagine if your powers malfunctioned and you burnt off your eyes!. And I wouldn't like any side effects either. Brain cancer isn't what I'd wish for. Neither would I like a "hand" cancer stick out tongue


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I pick to have eyes on my hands, and shoot beams from there


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